7mm Scale DJH/Tower Models Streamlined Coronation

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  1. Rob Pulham

    Rob Pulham Staff Member Administrator Feature Contributor

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    I have had a couple of one step forward, two steps back on the build but I am making good progress.

    First I detailed up the cab roof and in my usual fashion left the ventilators open. - Epic Fail:headbanger:

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    Oops! had I thought in advance of fitting the cab floor, cutting out the opening would have been a reasonable easy task with the piercing saw. Not being able to get the blade in, I really didn't fancy chain drilling that thickness whitemetal so I took the easy way out and closed the vents.

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    Next came washout plugs. I added the line down either side then discovered more lower down on each side...

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    Next the instructions have you solder two layers and a .45mm pin for the sand box fillers but no instruction to recess them into the body - I only noted it after fitting them as they are in the photos

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    More modification needed...

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    I was going to fit the reversing lever to the cab too but on this I had the foresight to check that I could get the back head in if I did. No chance!

    So it will need fitting after painting. A friend who is building one of these had made the cab floor removable something that I will consider for the next one.

    I have made further progress but the photos are still in the camera so they will keep for another day
     
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    Nice work Rob. Taking shape.

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  3. Rob Pulham

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    Having got the hiccups behind me, I have cracked on with the detailing of the body.

    First up more wash out plugs.

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    Then even more washout plugs

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    Then the final (I sincerely hope) pair

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    Finally I started to detail the front end.

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    Having seen the loco at NRM, I think the front end is probably the most beautiful front to any loco yet built!!

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    "Having seen the loco at NRM, I think the front end is probably the most beautiful front to any loco yet built!!"
    I totally agree with you there Ron exquisite design.
    Be seeing you
    Bob
     
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  6. Rob Pulham

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    The end is in sight with the first one. The only things left to fit are the mounting blocks to fasten the body to the chassis and I need the chassis back from painting for that.

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    The kit includes the superb "streamlined" lamps which are fitted in some photos and not in others so it seemed a bit rude not to make them removeable.

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    I have also made good progress on drilling out the many holes on the next one - I am detailing the body while it's fresh in my mind and should be a much quicker process.

    Photos tomorrow but I was astonished at how thick the cast cab roof was - I broke 10 piercing saw blades cutting out the openings for the whistle and roof ventilators... It's a good job I bought 100 of each size when I got them.
     
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    Those art deco loco lamps look spot on and what a lovely touch to make them removable.:tophat:
     
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    Thanks Paul,

    To make them removable I filed a slot in the back where the casting is shaped to in theory fit over the lamp iron then I soldered on a small piece of scrap etch to create the opening. looking at the lamp castings for the next one they seem to have the slots cast in them so they may well be removable without additional work.
     
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    What a thing of beauty Rob! Can't wait to see how she looks with a few coats of paint.

    Pete.
     
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    What is good about the re streamlining of D of H is that we can get to appreciate close up the real empowerment of the Art Deco movement from that golden time when everything from phone kiosks to the old BBC building with its Ariel and Prospero sculpture became the flagship for Modernity. Now Pete I bet you never thought we'd be having art history on P1MRC. :avatar:
     
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    Many other people who don't understand our commitment and enthusiasm for attaining ever higher levels of detail within our great hobby might be forgiven for thinking we had all gone quite mad. :avatar: I on the other hand am full of awe in what you do Rob when it comes to the making process... those details can make or break a model :tophat::tophat::tophat:
     
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    Thanks Paul,

    If you are in full awe of my efforts, I suggest you have a look at Nick Dunhill's creations on the Guild site. Mine pale into insignificance at the side of his
     
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    I've seen Nick's work ... it's impressive.
     
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    Okay not exactly tomorrow but here they are at last.

    Just look at the thickness of the cab roof!!!

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    This is a high spec build than the last one so the rivets for the casing are added along the top

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    lastly for now the holes are all ready for fitting the washout plugs.

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    Nautically done Rob. :tophat:
     
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    I managed to get quite a bit done in the last couple of evenings, I fitted the handles to the files, stuck all the sleepers down for my display track and cut out and fitted the surround for the whistle on the second coronation body.

    I only recently found out that this existed having conferred with a friend who is also building one.

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    I managed to make it in one piece cutting it from a sheet of brass shim that I bought from China for the purpose (making riveted strips in general not specifically this job).

    I used my GW models rivet press to form the rivets and then I cut the slot out with a pair of topiary scissors that I use for cutting etches from the frets and removing tags from etched parts etc.
     
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    Your posting on the wrong forum Rob!
    This should be on and Engineering forum ! lol :avatar:


    But thanks for sharing the build!
    You have firmly hammered in the nails, that I will never consider building brass engines! :thumbs:
     
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  18. Rob Pulham

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    Hi TimberSurf,

    I sincerely hope not, my postings are intended to encourage others to have a go by showing how to get over various obstacles along the way not to frighten them off.

    It takes time to build up experience and I made lots of confidence bashing mistakes along the way. Then suddenly, over time the experience and confidence grows and less and less starts to faze you. The secret is try not to be too clever in the early days, things like compensation, extra detailing, scratch built parts all come when experience and confidence has been built on the basics.

    In fairness, I wouldn't suggest to anyone that they start with a brass engine no matter what scale they work in. I would always suggest starting with a wagon kit ideally from a reputable supplier that you know will go together as intended.

    In 7mm scale (and if you can find them 4mm as well) you can't get any better than our forum sponsor Connoisseur Models. I have built a good many of Jim's range and still maintain that they go together better than any kits that I have built. Once you have cut your teeth on a few of his vans etc. he has some simple starter locos to develop your skills further without being over complicated or more importantly in the beginning breaking the bank.
     
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    Hi Timbersurf, I cut my model building teeth in 4mm many years ago in both plastic and metals but only a few years ago rekindled interest in 7mm scale kit building. my first loco was an F5 from Connoisseur which as Rob says went together like a dream... you'll find pictures of it somewhere in my media. I also followed Rob's work on other forums and also others like Ken Jazz Mason and that totally inspired me to get to grips with the loco building process, currently I'm on with an ex Jim Harris kit which has a reputation all of its own, the loco a BR 4MT is now down to detailing work and electrical fitting my next steam loco will be a Britannia from Scorpio 70010 Owen Glendower and I'm waiting for Gladiator to bring out the limited order reworked Duchess kit. Currently I'm investing in the Steve Beattie diesel kits and they show a different aspect to building from the steam kits, of course I've got a whole goods yard of Slater's, Peco and Parkside plastic wagon kits upstairs plus half a dozen Kirk coach kits which are something else. Now all this is inspired by the interest in kit building which Rob shows us and hopefully without sounding cheesy I really encourage you to dive in and build metal kits even if you aim for simple ones at first like I did. Good luck there Timbersurf and be encouraged and inspired to push your boundaries of ability like I was.

    cheers for now York Paul.:thumbs:
     
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    Rob and Paul, thanks for the encouragement but it falls on barren ground lads! :D I had no intention of doing kit builds or scratch in the first place. That does not mean I am not interested in what others do! (or cannot appreciate their efforts!) I have an inquisitive mind, and always marvel at all forms of engineering and modelling. What you have demonstrated is the exquisite detail level that can be had and this tells me the huge time invested, that I do not have, to invest in every avenue. As a timed served Engineer, I could probably jump straight in without drowning, but just because I am capable does not make it my hobby. So I must invest my hobby time in those areas that interest me, like buildings, scenery, electrics and electronics (Arduino and lighting).
    Just to to put a mockery to the above, I have recently "had a go" at scratch building rolling stock! Not on your level and for some odd reasoning (forum competition {a bit of fun), use of household materials and mainly just to see if I could {climbed the mountain because it was there})
    Don't laugh to hard :facepalm: Project 1 and :hammer: Project 2, two siding queens!
     

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