Class 26/27 Concept to kit

Discussion in 'Steve Beattie Developments' started by SBt, Sep 10, 2018.

  1. SBt

    SBt Full Member

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    Right here goes. Started the initial artwork for the Etch Brass version of this new kit this morning. The first thing I did was have a good look at the variations between the loco's to see if I would need one or two body shells. I've found, with some careful design, I can use one body shell. You'll see how and why as the kit progresses.

    Then I decide what material will go where and it will be roughly the same as the Class 24/25's. So, it will be mainly etch brass with white metal canopy's, resin fuel tanks and cab interior. The bogie will have a removable internal chassis with whitemetal cast sides.

    With NBL projects I have copies of the works drawings, with the 24/25's I had measurements I had taken myself some years ago. With this project I have scaled down GA's and actual measurements I took of 27 066
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    Now I can create the outline plan in the 2d CAD for the etch artwork which I can now export directly over to the 3d software saving considerable time and ensuring accuracy.

    I'm not above making cock-up's - there's one or two in every kit so if anyone see's something feel free to shout!
     
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    Ok mornings work pretty much complete. Here the construction has been decided upon. The Underframe and solebar will be separate to the body in the same manor as the 24/25. That designed worked well. The body will wrap around and tuck under to meet the platform. If you look closely you'll see that there's an angle cut away in the rib. This allows the tiny radius of the wrap to fold under accurately. On the early Class 22's, and the other NBL's the roof ribs caused the body side to finish 1mm short of the base. Same with the Cab wrap on the 2nd generation Co Bo. The reason for that was the metal refused to fold perfectly. It's just the way it is. By removing this - it works. 1c Sept 10th 2018.jpg
     
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    jakesdad13 Staff Member Moderator

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    Its always been a mystery to me how the process of creating the artwork for a kit is done, thanks for sharing the steps Steve, its much appreciated :thumbup:

    Pete.
     
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    I have this feeling Pete that you will want one of these mate:lol:
     
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    Firstly Steve thank you for letting us have a glimpse of the planning stage and so folk will be able to appreciate exactly how much and what is involved in bringing such kits to reality. I have a good feeling about this one and suspect it will be very popular mainly as a resin one piece due to ease and speed in construction, but also the etch version will attract the hard core builders too. :thumbs: I'm delighted to learn these locos will have the removable inner bogie frame system which from a model builders perspective seems much the better option... but that is just my personal preference and of course I'm happy to be corrected if so. As glitches can occur at times with a little lateral thinking by the builder all issues can be overcome, so when I build these locos as etch kits I'll let you know what I come across so such stuff can be amended in later revisions. The main thing is we will soon have two new locos for our layouts and that earns a big shout out of thank you for your solid commitment to the diesel kit market. :tophat:
     
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    Watching this with bated breath .......
     
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    I'll get you some Listerine..... that'll help your breath. :thumbs:
     
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    :facepalm: :avatar:

    Paul
     
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    Go for it Dundee Paul... get your order in for one of these.
     
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    You won't break him York Paul. He's a man with a very strict plan. He won't waver. :avatar:
     
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    Ah well not to worry and big respect for sticking to a plan... we'll just have to buy Dundee's quota of Class 27's. :avatar:
     
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    Great idea. :thumbs: gets my vote. :avatar:
     
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    Got some more build piccies on the way in a min
     
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    Looking forward to them. :cheers:
     
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    I was always more of a 25 man, but maybe that's a by product of where I was brought up :avatar:,
    and there is that something about a 21 and 29, that impression of a sad 37 that's just had its nose cut off to fit in the box:avatar:

    But they all have a basic design flaw - water is supposed to go in the tank, and coal in every other storage location.

    Although a 26 would look nice on Another Bridge :facepalm:

    Paul
     
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    Ohhhhhhh ..... do I detect a crack in the armour. :avatar:
     
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    I have a 25 kit in the build cue and Cockshute was the place down Shelton New Road to go and see them back in the day. Now I totally agree that the Class 37 is sad... its just a short version of a Class 50 with a different cab. It is just a great shame that North British examples such as D6122, D600 and D601 evaded preservation, its even worse knowing that D6318 was actually saved but cut up at Swindon by mistake before it could be removed to safety.
     
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    A bit of a tragedy really.
     
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    Very sad Toto... in one picture I saw D600 was parked behind D6122 along with a Southern U class loco. D600 was in Rail Blue!
     
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    One has the softest of spots for the BRCW Type 2, my favourite diesel, and Quintessentially Scottish. I don't have an O gauge layout. I don't think I ever will. And so I'd never have anywhere to run it. But I might need one of these......with sound. And exhaust fumes.
     
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