Electronics Tutorial Anyone?

Discussion in 'Tutorials' started by redpiperbob, Jul 31, 2018.

  1. redpiperbob

    redpiperbob Full Member

    Messages:
    244
    Likes Received:
    159
    Joined:
    Aug 19, 2016
    Hi All

    I have been following a couple of threads on this forum and I am wondering if here is a place for basic electronic tutorials. Taking things back to the very basics but in a particle way as attached to model railways. I am thinking of simple circuits and the way I would approach how to translate these to a circuit board and a working model or the railway modeller.

    I would be willing to take on this role if it was thought that it could be of help. I would try to break down the circuits to the basics that I understand.

    I have to say now that I am not an electronics engineer but have picked up bits and pieces along the modelling way. I have built several layouts some with a greater degree of electronics than others. I have also built 3D printers a 3D scanner, a CNC router, I have converted a vertical mill to CNC, and I am just converting a lathe to CNC.

    Now that I am retired and a widower and I have more time to devote to this great hobby and would like to pass on some of what I have learnt. I will wait to see how this post gets received before going head. I will be on holiday for the next fortnight and I was thinking if you want me to go ahead then the first circuit to explore would be coach lighting circuit that Keith M has been talking about.
     
    Tony Davis, jakesdad13 and Matt like this.
  2. Matt

    Matt Full Member

    Messages:
    103
    Likes Received:
    102
    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2018
    Electrofrog points and isolated sections on DC please!!!
     
  3. redpiperbob

    redpiperbob Full Member

    Messages:
    244
    Likes Received:
    159
    Joined:
    Aug 19, 2016
    Hi Matt
    I think I could do something about that for you.
    I will wait until I have had a few replies to finalize what will be the first article but as you got in first :lol: :avatar:
    Be seeing you
    Bob
     
  4. jakesdad13

    jakesdad13 Staff Member Moderator

    Messages:
    2,794
    Likes Received:
    423
    Joined:
    Dec 14, 2015
    An excellent proposition :thumbup:.
    Being something of a technophobe I try to find a simpler mechanical way of getting round things but I will definitely follow this thread.
    I particularly like the coach lighting projects. My own preference would be for 7mm projects with dcc. I have several locos with sound but the chips have more functions than I know how to use, lights etc.

    Cheer's, Pete.
     
  5. paul_l

    paul_l Staff Member Administrator

    Messages:
    5,873
    Likes Received:
    956
    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2015
    Sounds great to me

    Paul
     
  6. York Paul

    York Paul Full Member

    Messages:
    1,952
    Likes Received:
    1,044
    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2017
    Well RedPiperBob I'm one of these people who have to sit down for about two hours looking at a wiring diagram and then promptly forgetting everything I'd just seen so a point of contact or a simple thread about the subject would be wonderful... I can do 'lectrics to a point but it's not my forte. Anything like that would be great to someone like me. Enjoy your holiday.
    cheers for now
    York Paul
     
  7. Toto

    Toto Staff Member Founder Administrator

    Messages:
    11,722
    Likes Received:
    891
    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2017
    Hi Bob, Feel free to go for it. Post up your offerings in the tutorial section and see where it leads. I know that there is great interest in these techy subjects.

    cheers

    toto
     
  8. Chatty

    Chatty Full Member

    Messages:
    55
    Likes Received:
    11
    Joined:
    Mar 23, 2018
    Go for it!
     
  9. Splitpin

    Splitpin Full Member

    Messages:
    42
    Likes Received:
    4
    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2017
    Coach lighting would be great, I have a bunch to do that I've not quite had the courage to start. :scratchchin:
     
  10. Davoetype

    Davoetype Full Member

    Messages:
    397
    Likes Received:
    87
    Joined:
    Jun 14, 2016
    Support the coach lighting idea as long as someone can also cover how to access the insides of specific carriages without causing permanent damage?

    Cheers

    Richard
     
  11. Keith M

    Keith M Staff Member Moderator

    Messages:
    2,398
    Likes Received:
    316
    Joined:
    Dec 16, 2015
    Hi Richard.
    Just think along the lines of how the coaches are built on the production line. Nowadays this usually means that everything clips together (none of the Triang/Hornby brass screws through the middle of the coach!) for speed of assembly, so it's really a matter of finding out where these clips are and releasing them as gently as possible. As I usually paint interiors and add passengers as part of my 'upgrades', all my coaches (About 30) have been dismantled and reassembled to allow this. I'm awaiting delivery of five ("Low mileage, 1 owner") Bachmann Mk1 coaches presently, which I've not attempted before, so when I get them, I'll look to the possibility of a "How-to" on these and others including Hornby Pullmans if that'll be any help.
    Keith.
     
  12. mikejh

    mikejh Full Member

    Messages:
    27
    Likes Received:
    13
    Joined:
    Mar 24, 2018
    My personal problem with electronics is the wiring diagrams I get lost very quickly with all those symbols and lines, the schematics always seem to look completely different to the actual finished product.

    Mike
     
  13. York Paul

    York Paul Full Member

    Messages:
    1,952
    Likes Received:
    1,044
    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2017
    Start it rolling with Lesson One about coach lighting please Bob, the classroom is filling up :thumbs::avatar:
     
  14. Davoetype

    Davoetype Full Member

    Messages:
    397
    Likes Received:
    87
    Joined:
    Jun 14, 2016
    Thanks Keith
    Getting at the insides is critical and you are right in that there are those "secret" clip together aspects that if we come across and then share, we will avoid much needless destruction. Looking forward to this thread as while most of my goods rolling stock is nicely weathered, my passenger coaches generally remain in pristine condition as I was hoping to include lighting and interior detailing as part of the weathering process. You might see from my Dargan layout that lighting is something I believe adds a great deal of realism to any layout.

    Cheers

    and happy modelling

    Richard
     
  15. redpiperbob

    redpiperbob Full Member

    Messages:
    244
    Likes Received:
    159
    Joined:
    Aug 19, 2016
    Part 2

    OK all it seems that the coach lighting has won. Don’t worry Matt DC wiring will follow.

    Now as I said I am going on holiday and will not be starting until I return. But for anyone that would like to build the coach lighting unit here is a list of parts that you will need.

    The part numbers are Rapid Electronics and the number in brackets is the amount needed per coach. I usually buy several of each as they can be used for all sorts of different circuits.

    I have no connection with Rapid other than being a very satisfied customer.

    There are plenty of other places to buy parts from including Ebay.

    https://www.rapidonline.com

    Leds 55-0074 (6)

    Capacitor 11-3534 (1)

    Bridge Rectifier 47-2962 (1)

    Resistors 13-0202 (2) this is a kit of resistors you will need other resistors for other

    projects.

    Stripboard 34-0540 (If you get one board this will do several coaches I usually by several

    smaller boards from Ebay)

    you will also need some wire 7/02 (this means 7 strands of 0.2 mm dia wire )

    Wire 01-0405

    OK so that’s all for now. I will see you after the hols.

    be seeing you
    Bob
     
  16. Toto

    Toto Staff Member Founder Administrator

    Messages:
    11,722
    Likes Received:
    891
    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2017
    Looking forward to it Bob. :thumbs::thumbs::thumbs:
     
  17. DomMorris

    DomMorris Full Member

    Messages:
    28
    Likes Received:
    7
    Joined:
    Nov 23, 2017
    Ditto this, I've been trying to work out how the circuit diagram Keith very kindly supplied (Thank you again Keith!) which is very simple to grasp (using my pre GCSE electronics knowledge!) then translates onto the circuit board. Again, thank you so much for supplying the photos Keith, I just think I have a rather large hole in my education as far as circuit boards are concerned!

    Looking forward to sitting in the classroom Bob, thank you very much.

    Cheers,

    Dom
     
  18. redpiperbob

    redpiperbob Full Member

    Messages:
    244
    Likes Received:
    159
    Joined:
    Aug 19, 2016
    Hi All
    Just back from the family holiday (skive) will be starting on Monday on opening the coaches and then the hard work starts (only kidding) :cheers:
    we will start with the opening of the coach as you have to choose where the little board goes.
    Now dont forget this is not going to be in depth just easy going all questions are welcome.
    be seeing you
    Bob
     
    SMR CHRIS and jakesdad13 like this.
  19. Toto

    Toto Staff Member Founder Administrator

    Messages:
    11,722
    Likes Received:
    891
    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2017
    Great stuff Bob.

    Hope you had a great holiday. ....... back to normality now. :avatar:

    Cheers

    Toto
     
  20. ianvolvo46

    ianvolvo46 Staff Member Moderator

    Messages:
    3,755
    Likes Received:
    227
    Joined:
    Dec 8, 2015
    I reckon there's someone not too far from Dundee whose been dribbling in his cornflakes since you mentioned electronics .. the dark forces awaken .. great idea though Bob :thumbup::thumbup:
     

Share This Page