Episode 80 17 Building Up A Background

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  1. gormo

    gormo Staff Member Administrator

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    G`day Train Spotters,

    This week we have a simple demonstration of how I build up my backscenes into something unique.

    This method also allows you to modify or completely cover an old background.

    It`s not rocket science but also it is not reliant on modifying images with software. If you can download an image and resize it on your printer, if necessary, you can do this ......all you need to do is cut it out and stick it on........cut and paste in computer speak.

    I would suggest laying down one of the commercial sky backgrounds first, but that`s up to you....I didn`t do it that way.....why.?????......Dunno.????.....just didn`t!!!

    Enjoy the video.....my first one in Technicolour....:thumbs:....:drums::drums::drums::drums:

    Building Up A Background



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  2. Gary

    Gary Wants more time for modelling.... Staff Member Administrator

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    Nice video once again Gormo. :thumbs:

    One thing to remember when selecting images is where the shadow lies, or better still, where the light source comes from on each selected image. ;)

    Cheers, Gary.
     
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    Thanks Gary,

    And folks.....Gary is absolutely correct about the shadows. We were discussing that the other day and I forgot to mention it.......:faint:

    The simple fact is that if you are placing objects on your back scene and the shadows on those objects contradict each other......it won`t look right. I suppose in that situation you could take an image and mirror reverse it with your software to correct the the problem......at least I think that would work...????.....:scratchchin:.....of course if it was a building with a sign....the sign would then be backwards and then further remedial work would be required..

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  4. Keith M

    Keith M Staff Member Moderator

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    Are you using a specific type of paper to print these backgrounds Gormo, or is it just standard (around 80GSM) printer paper? I was wondering if (when you've settled on the correct scale and perspective) perhaps the colour might be better and more permanent if matt or satin photographic paper was used rather than standard printer paper, as I'd imagine it wouldn't need varnish overspray, though it would obviously be more expensive?
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    I have done layering on Industry Lane backscene and I have used standard 80gsm paper for this. The skyline buildings are a scan/copy from an existing backscene, the multi story brown building is the next layer, followed by the tree on the left, then the pub and building behind the low relief shed on the right. :thumbs:

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  6. gormo

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    G`day Keith,

    Yes I am just using standard paper.....have done all along.

    I guess your suggestion about photographic paper would give a better outcome, but as you say, it would increase the cost.??

    Actually I think the ink is the costly part of the whole exercise, regardless of what you are printing. You just about have to mortgage the house here in Oz, before you go out to buy new cartridges.

    With that in mind, I am now considering going to a firm here called Office Works. They have printing facilities as part of their operation and I think I would be better off just paying the going rate there and in turn preserving my home printer for more important stuff.

    Gary I have always loved the way you put that scene together.....:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

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    Gary Wants more time for modelling.... Staff Member Administrator

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    Without your tuition on photoshopping Gormo, it would not have come out as nice. I owe you a lot, maestro ! :worship:

    Cheers, Gary.
     
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    Toto I'm best ignored Staff Member Founder Administrator

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    Once again ..... Very good. As you say, you need to develop an eye for it to get the perspective correct but if you can, you can use the technique to quite drastically transform a back scene without ripping things out and starting from scratch.

    Cheers

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    Thanks Gary & Toto,

    Yes Toto.......if you find a better option....just stick it over the top.

    For folks interested in working with perspective, there is an article in Model Rail No.235 June 2017 Page 94, which makes good reading and is very informative.

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  10. Keith M

    Keith M Staff Member Moderator

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    I have to agree about the cost of inks Gormo, there are many very cheap printer/scanner/copiers available in the UK by the big makers which initially seem quite tempting until you find that a set of replacement inks cost more than the price of the printer, which is ridiculous! I have a fairly basic Canon printer and use 'compatible' inks with results as good as the original Canon ones, but for many printers now, you can find (at least on Ebay UK) refillable cartridges sold as a pack with bottles of 'top-up' inks as an option, and I see Epson have at least one printer with refillable ink tanks rather than cartridges. It's a stupid situation where manufacturers have us by the 'short & curlies' with the price of 'genuine' inks!
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    Absolutely spot on Keith,

    Totally agree with what you say because it`s the same here. Really you are better off just buying a new printer here.....it can be cheaper than replacement cartridges. The printers are getting smarter too and recognizing refills and rejecting them....been there done that.

    Mine is a basic Canon....cost AU $ 24.......replacement cartridges now are in the $50 range if you`re lucky.???

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