Gladiator LMS / BR De Streamlined Duchess

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  1. Toto

    Toto Staff Member Founder Administrator

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    well with all this talk of Royal weddings, I thought I'd grab a Duchess of my own. Ain't no Megan Markle but this one is every bit as much high maintenance only with a slightly different type of firebox.

    Should be on its way from Ellis Clark soon along with the ACME kits Stanier mogul

    Unfortunately I'll be in Cyprus when it arrives but should be on my doorstep for getting back. Pictures on my return.

    Cheers for now.

    Toto
     
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    Toto Staff Member Founder Administrator

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    Arrived yesterday about an hour before we were due to leave and I had been set some chores by SWMBO before leaving ( thought I'd better do as I was told ). So pictures on my return.

    Cheers

    Toto

    From a bloody boiling hot Cyprus ....... Where's that ice cold beer ..... Ahhhhh.
     
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    It's not going with you - mankini, soldering iron, selection of solders and fluxes, and Megan, what more could you need - maybe an apron as any solder spatters when wearing the mankini may cause the eyes to water.

    Paul
     
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    Toto Staff Member Founder Administrator

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    Conjures up a bit of a picture doesn't it. ...... No more ...... I'm trying to eat my lunch. :avatar:
     
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    Toto Staff Member Founder Administrator

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    and here are the parts out of the box. Please note, it looks like there is one set of big driving wheels missing ...... not the case, they were hiding in the boiler.


    desturctions


    wheels motor and gearbox ....


    cast smoke box and some other castings / brass boiler.


    other castings and lost wax castings .....


    first of the frets .....


    chassis parts ......


    more brass and stuff .....

    i still have the tender to come yet.

    cheers

    toto
     
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    Toto Staff Member Founder Administrator

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    The tender for the Duchess arrived today direct from Gladiator courtesy of Ellis Clark Trains.

    Illmpost up the pics later today.

    Cheers

    Toto
     
  7. York Paul

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    Great stuff Toto, it will be interesting to see what the differences are in the remade resin firebox, when a spoke to Dave and Trish they said some of the white metal components that were being replaced with lost wax had been held up and the new fireboxes would be ready somewhere in September. Mine will be 46254 City of Stoke on Trent and finished with LMS pattern lining in Maroon and BR rampant Lion emblem. Any thoughts on how you will livery your Duchess?
     
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    Toto Staff Member Founder Administrator

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    Hi York Paul,

    Not really. I am not the most knowledgeable on liveries and period a but I think it's a welded tender variation that I have which should date it as a later version. If that's the case I believe Brunswick green with a late crest may be ok. I stand to be corrected though.

    This will be a commission build I think ax I would like a good job done on it. I'll concentrate on the smaller simpler builds. Any advice is greatfully received. Especially to the choice of variation in liveries that I could choose between.

    Cheers

    Toto
     
  9. York Paul

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    As I understand it in later years the Scottish allocated Duchesses (46222/23/24/27/30/31/32/42 where kept in Loco Green (Deep Bronze Green) and many of the LMR Crewe, Camden and Carlisle allocations were later repainted into Maroon with LMS style straw and black lining, I'm not sure if 46249 City of Sheffield was in Loco Green when transferred to 66A Polmadie in 1963. Don't forget 46220 and 46221 came south to Crewe in 1959 then later went north again to Carlisle in 1963.
     
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    Toto Staff Member Founder Administrator

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    The LMS maroon would have been my livery of choice. A nice rich regal looking livery.

    Toto
     
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    I agree!
     
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    Oh well ....... that's it then ....... just as soon as I have the cash and you have the time.:avatar:
     
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    and here are a couple of photo's ........


    a parts list and destructions .......


    the usual white metal fitting etc ........


    first load of brass etches


    and the second set of frets .........

    just need wheels for the tender and a motor and gearbox.

    thats for nearer build time.

    cheers

    toto
     
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    And I agree also, a very regal livery indeed.:tophat:
     
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    Very nice kit Toto... I'm very much in awe. Seriously in the fullness of time what a great loco this will make.
     
  16. Rob Pulham

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    Are all those whitemetal castings packed individually like the DJH kits have? - I ask because that probably means that it's a recent Gladiator kit because I am sure that David and Trishia Hill introduced that style of packing after they took over the range.
     
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    Yes ..... at the hands of someone else ......:avatar: commissions abound I think. I'll be in training with the easier stuff. :avatar:
     
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    Hi Rob,

    yes they are packed similarly. they look nice crisp castings as well.

    cheers

    toto
     
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    One of the more recent offerings then. Are you going to talk to David about a replacement firebox casting?
     
  20. Toto

    Toto Staff Member Founder Administrator

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    I can do. what do these usually come in at out of curiosity ?
     

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