Here is the Old Gallery ...

Discussion in 'How this forum works - FAQ' started by Martin Wynne, Feb 20, 2018.

  1. Martin Wynne

    Martin Wynne Full Member

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    To help out I have made the old gallery available as a temporary measure until Paul and Toto get it integrated into the new forum software.

    To find the old gallery, go to:

    http://85a.co.uk/platform1/old_gallery.html

    That page shows ONE photo from each member's old gallery. You should be able to recognise your own.

    If you click on a photo, it will show ALL the photos from that member's old gallery. It may take a few moments to load all the photos.

    They will appear as slides if you click on a small photo to start. Click left or right on the slide to move to the next one.

    I don't have any access to the database or any of the forum software, so this is just the photos linked from the web site, it is not possible to show user names or captions or other detail.

    Here is the link again:

    http://85a.co.uk/platform1/old_gallery.html

    cheers,

    Martin.
     
  2. gormo

    gormo Staff Member Administrator

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    Hello Martin,
    I don`t know whether you realize that publishing this link to the old gallery means that it also visible and accessible to any visitor to this forum.
    There is no need to log in to access the images.
    Speaking for myself, I am not very happy about the fact that anybody can now access my pictures through the back door courtesy of your link.
    I would suggest that if you want to help out an individual member with this sort of information that it should possibly be done through a PM.
    Gormo
     
  3. Martin Wynne

    Martin Wynne Full Member

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    Hi Gormo,

    Thanks for your reply.

    The gallery images were previously visible to visitors, they were not restricted to members only.

    I have not made any files visible which were not visible before, I have simply provided links to them. I have not downloaded the images or made any copies of them, the images displayed are the originals linked from the Platform 1 server.

    If the Admins want to move this thread to an area only accessible to members, I'm entirely happy about that.

    But I would have thought you would want as many visitors as possible to see the members' photos, as an encouragement to join Platform 1.

    Since anyone can join with a few clicks, and thereby see any and all content, it is not logical to restrict access to any of it. Restricted content makes sense only if membership is in some way controlled, for example as a paid subscription.

    cheers,

    Martin.
     
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  4. Martin Wynne

    Martin Wynne Full Member

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    To insert a photo from your old gallery in a post:

    1. display your full old gallery of photos as in my first post above.

    2. right-button click on the required small image (not the large one in the lightbox), then

    3. get the URL for the (large) image:

    in Internet Explorer: click Copy shortcut

    in Microsoft Edge: click Copy link

    in Chrome: click Copy link address

    in Firefox: click Copy Link Location

    4. click this Image icon in the posting editor:

    p1_image.png

    5. paste the copied URL into the box.

    6. click Insert.

    cheers,

    Martin.
     
  5. gormo

    gormo Staff Member Administrator

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    Hello Martin,
    Yes this forum does want as many visitors as possible to see the members photos as an encouragement to join Platform 1.
    So please tell me how providing a direct link to the gallery can encourage that.???... A direct link that just brings up just photographs.
    If we use the analogy that the forum is like an art gallery. If you want to go and see the art in the gallery you have to go into the art gallery. Sometimes you have to pay to see a particular exhibition. When you`re done viewing art there are side benefits for the art gallery. You might go and buy a coffee in the cafe. You might buy a book in the bookshop. You may sign up as a member of the gallery. There are various other benefits for the gallery by having you visit.
    Now we want visitors to look at photographs of members work. We also want those visitors to see the photos in a situation where they can visit the thread associated with that photo. The whole point is to have visitors come directly to the forum so that they can make associations in their minds.
    The direct link has just taken all the art out of the art gallery and placed it on the street for any Tom, Dick or Harry to have a look at without any association to the art gallery.
    Cheers
    Gormo
     
  6. Sol

    Sol Full Member

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    Gormo, while I read what you are saying, Martin did say a temporary measure until Paul & Toto get it integrated into the new software.
     
  7. gormo

    gormo Staff Member Administrator

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    OK Sol,
    I give up !!!
    Cheers
    Gormo
     
  8. Martin Wynne

    Martin Wynne Full Member

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    Hi Gormo,

    I'm puzzled by your response.

    No-one can see my link without visiting Platform 1 and reading this topic, I haven't posted it anywhere else. The more visitors can see of members' work the more likely they are to want to join the forum. It's just the same as letting them read the topics, and see the posted pictures in them. I can't see the difference.

    But the main reason for doing this was to allow members to regain access to their own gallery images. So that they can be used in posts, as before. That was asked for in another topic a couple of days ago.

    However it is a matter for the Admins. They can delete this topic. Or move it to an area accessible only to members. Or change the permissions on the gallery folders to prevent them being accessed. Or whatever. I have tried to make something useful for members, but if it is not wanted, so be it.

    cheers,

    Martin.
     
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  9. gormo

    gormo Staff Member Administrator

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    It`s not rocket science Martin,
    Visit this topic,copy the link, save it on your PC, access it any time you like without visiting the forum.
    Gormo
     
  10. Toto

    Toto I'm best ignored Staff Member Founder Administrator

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    Anybody looking in can see the original gallery images in the posts that includes guests so there is no requirement to have them displayed anywhere else including 85A. I am grateful for your offer of assistance given your knowledge of programming but we have our own support people who we have employed and who will deal with any issues in a methodical approach. We are happy to gradually progress through any issues that require our attention as they are identified and a time frame and priority that suits our forum team.

    Any member who has a need to access any of their historical images only needs to contact the admin team via pm and it will be facilitated until we arrange for the integration of the old gallery images directly into the new gallery.

    toto
     
  11. Martin Wynne

    Martin Wynne Full Member

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    But why would anyone do that? Far more likely to bookmark this topic. Which means visiting the forum again in future.

    cheers,

    Martin.
     
  12. Martin Wynne

    Martin Wynne Full Member

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    Hi Toto,

    They are not displayed anywhere else. The link to them is in this topic only, i.e. on this forum only.

    cheers,

    Martin.
     
  13. paul_l

    paul_l Staff Member Administrator

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    Hi Martin

    I have looked at the links and the images have been copied to your site "http://85a.co.uk/platform1/user_gallery.php?id=13&count=10"

    That is not on our forum.

    Paul
     
  14. Sol

    Sol Full Member

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    As anyone who is not a member of Platform 1 can visit the forum and see all the photos & words currently available, I see no problems with Martin's link to the old photos which in time will be intergrated with the new gallery. This allows members to see the old photos if required and they may wish to re-post an old photo in a new thread.
     
  15. Martin Wynne

    Martin Wynne Full Member

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    Hi Paul,

    The images have not been copied to my site. If you look at the page source you can see that they are all linked from your site. If you were to delete them they would disappear from the page (after a browser refresh).

    I have not copied or downloaded any of the images.

    cheers,

    Martin.
     
  16. Martin Wynne

    Martin Wynne Full Member

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    Hi Sol,

    Many thanks for some common sense around here. :)

    cheers,

    Martin.
     
  17. Martin Wynne

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    There has been some discussion elsewhere about copyright of images.

    I would like to make it clear that the images visible on the temporary Old Gallery pages have not been copied:

    http://85a.co.uk/platform1/old_gallery.html

    The images you are seeing there are the original uploaded images on the Platform 1 server. They are coming direct from the Platform 1 server. They have not been copied to anywhere else. If you were to modify them the modifications would be visible there too. If you were to delete them, they would disappear there too.

    Such "hot linking" of images is not a copyright infringement because no actual copy has been made. You still have full control of what is being displayed to modify it or delete it as you wish.

    I appreciate this concept may be difficult to grasp if you see your work being displayed on a web page or in a post where you were not expecting it.

    The owners of the Platform 1 web site can control where and how the content is delivered to prevent such hot linking. This may however cause the content to be invisible to some members according to their browser privacy settings.

    regards,

    Martin.
     
  18. Sol

    Sol Full Member

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    Martin, not only that images may not be seen depending on browser but it also depends on the device used - desktop PC compared to an ipad, etc.
     
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