Midland Railway Centre

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  1. Toto

    Toto I'm best ignored Staff Member Founder Administrator

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    Formerly sold under Metalsmiths banner are now available to order. I've been waiting for one of these for about two years.

    Uses a 600 X 600 MDF modular well. 70 ft turntable deck as used at Haymarket in Edinburgh. Picking it up at Telford ( modular base via courier )

    It comes in kit format ( or assembled ) but I have opted for the kit. Nut and bolt construction of the main kit with cosmetic item being soldered.

    I'll post photo's when it comes.

    Cheers

    Toto
     
  2. Ron

    Ron Full Member

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    Sounds good Tom, is there an advert for it?
     
  3. Toto

    Toto I'm best ignored Staff Member Founder Administrator

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    Hi Ron,

    I'll post up a link to the website later when I get home. It only has a couple of small pictures but enough to give you an idea.

    Cheers

    Toto
     
  4. paul_l

    paul_l Staff Member Administrator

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    The darkside has our flounder by the short and curlies now ..... he's ordered up stepper motors, stepper controllers, and doing the control system himself :eek:

    To aid him in his struggle, I'm trying to print up a GT2 gear 120T. combining this with a 20T gear on the stepper motor will give a 6:1 ratio i.e. 6 turns of the stepper motor will give 1 turn of the turntable, connected via a GT2 - 6mm wide toothed belt.
    The stepper Toto has ordered up (Nema 17 - 1.68A per coil) has 200 steps per 360 degree rotation or 1.8 degrees per step, divided by 6 (the 6:1 ratio) gives a 0.3 degree movement of the turntable per full step.
    The Sparkfun Big Easy Driver - stepper motor driver he has ordered will provide up to 2.0A per coil, and supports Micro Stepping, which is by using fancy electronics to control the coils, can divide the full step into half, quarter or sixteenth steps giving upto 3200 steps per revolution of the stepper motor (16 x 200), then with the 6:1 ratio gives 19200 steps per revolution of the turntable, or 0.01785 degrees per step - should acurate enough for Toto.

    The other really neat feature of the Big Easy Driver, is you tell the software (arduino - what else :lol:) you destination, and it works out from its current position, the direction and number of steps required to get there, and the acceleration and deceleration required for smooth operation.

    The gear will be in two parts, the lower part having the outer flange to stop the belt coming off plus the gear teeth, the upper part is a thick flange to retain the belt and hold a 3mm dia neodyium magnet ('cos I have plenty of these :whatever:) to be used for the homing routine to set up the zero reference.

    The gear is 45% through printing, so hopefully I will be able to post a pick up later today.

    Paul
     
  5. Gary

    Gary Wants more time for modelling.... Staff Member Administrator

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    Does this mean another board will be added to the ever expanding Luib Bridge ?? Soon you'll be in the neighbours property... :eek:

    Cheers, Gary.
     
  6. paul_l

    paul_l Staff Member Administrator

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    :scratchchin:...... he's in a quandry on that one as the turntable is wider that his standard baseboard :whatever:

    But it does mean that an O gauge depot layout may be on the cards in the future :facepalm: :avatar:

    Paul
     
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    Thanks for the heads up Paul, so now we know he will be buying yet more stock for the depot. :facepalm: :avatar::avatar::avatar:
     
  8. Ron

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    But has he done the 'blinking light' on the Arduino yet??:facepalm:
     
  9. Toto

    Toto I'm best ignored Staff Member Founder Administrator

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    Big easy driver arrived this am. That's a start.

    Not sure what the turn table will do yet. As Paul said it could become part of a small ( for o gauge ) loco depot plank but as it will be built as a module, could be used on Luib Bridge as well.

    We'll see. If it goes to Luib Bridge, it may mean a possible fifth board would be required to better facilitate the turntable. Not sure yet.

    Cheers
     
  10. Toto

    Toto I'm best ignored Staff Member Founder Administrator

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    Hi Ron,
    ill get the blinkers on ..... worry not. :avatar:
    the big easy driver .......
    [​IMG]

    nothing exactly big about it. never mind ...... its now in stock.
    cheers
    toto
     
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    paul_l Staff Member Administrator

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    4h20min later ..... I knew it would take longer than normal, as to allow for the fine teeth I had slowed the print speed to 40mm/sec rather than the usual 60mm/sec

    [​IMG]
    Outer diameter is 86mm

    Just the top section to do now.

    Paul
     
  12. SMR CHRIS

    SMR CHRIS Staff Member Moderator

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    Nice work Paul
    The 3D printer is really getting a work out.
    It's turning out some very nice bespoke and useful items.
     
  13. Toto

    Toto I'm best ignored Staff Member Founder Administrator

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    Hi Paul,

    Am I right in saying that you picked up a turntable not that long ago ?

    Toto
     
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    paul_l Staff Member Administrator

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    nope not recently- I've been working on traversers :thumbs:, I do however have a Peco OO gauge turntable kit, bought an awful lot of years ago, still waiting for an unboxing :whatever:, why ..........

    Paul
     
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  15. Toto

    Toto I'm best ignored Staff Member Founder Administrator

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    Ooooops. I meant SMR Chris ........ Where did I get Paul from. :facepalm:

    I think, if I remember he got one when he got his bayer Garrett.

    Toto
     
  16. Toto

    Toto I'm best ignored Staff Member Founder Administrator

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    Stumbled across this thread when ambling through the forum. Still not posted pictures of the components Yet. I'll post some up on my return from Berlin. As Paul suggested maybe for an O gauge locomotive depot. I'd need to catch up on the dark side first. His nibs will be in his element.
    Toto
     
  17. paul_l

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    what's this about me and an elephant - that's no nice, SWMBO has lost weight, ...... that's the two of us in the dog house now :eek: :whatever:

    For that beast you'll need bigger steppers - a bipolar Nema 17 with a Big Easy Driver as the controller will work fine. But would probably benefit from some form of gear box.

    Something like this

    Nema 17 + 5:1 planetary gear box

    So there is your homework - google bipolar stepper motors, the Big Easy Driver, as you're just lounging around we'll expect a fully research solution when you get back - enjoy :avatar:

    Paul

    PS - the Schnapps is usually on the top shelf, it doesn't actually help, but it does give the illusion making it all make sense.
     
  18. Toto

    Toto I'm best ignored Staff Member Founder Administrator

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    I thought I'd bought some of those beefed up doofer things ?
     
  19. SMR CHRIS

    SMR CHRIS Staff Member Moderator

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    Toto wrote:
    I missed this as well first time round.

    Yes I picked up the Ready built metal smiths turntable at auction
    The one I got is a ransom&rapier version
     
  20. Toto

    Toto I'm best ignored Staff Member Founder Administrator

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    I sent away for the stepper motor and gearbox. Just as well having it in stock for when the time comes. Oh joy of joys. :avatar:
     

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