Newton Broadway

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  1. SRman

    SRman Full Member

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    I have been playing around with the track arrangement and alignment in the engine shed area again, actually cutting and trimming track where I was reasonably happy with the arrangement, but leaving other bits just perched loosely where they may end up. The track itself is a mix of Peco bullhead plain track and code 75 points (with a couple of temporary infills of plain code 75 track too).

    The carriage shed would actually shift very slightly right in the photos, but generally I think I am very close to the final arrangement.

    Try as I might, I just cannot get the turntable to fit properly in front of the loco shed while allowing decent alignments behind it, but this arrangement mostly works the way I would like it to. There will be a yet to be built diesel refuelling point somewhere in all this too.

    The second photo is slightly blurred, but shows a slightly different viewpoint. Ignore the stray bits of track in the foreground and also the tools and glue bottles, etc.

    [​IMG]IMG_20180330_213502 by Jeffrey Lynn, on Flickr

    [​IMG]IMG_20180330_213517 by Jeffrey Lynn, on Flickr


    I have also added a small new area of static grass. this is only the first layer here, and the nail for the ground is still in there.

    [​IMG]IMG_20180330_213737 by Jeffrey Lynn, on Flickr
     
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    I tried moving the turntable around a bit, trying different arrangements, including a possible kick-back line, but it just didn't gel.

    This is much as seen before, but with the track cut to near correct lengths. The locomotives are weighing it down to hold the positions. I rearranged the two entry roads on the turntable slightly, so they are adjacent to each other.

    The carriage shed roads would seem to be only able to accept 2-car units (I was hoping for up to three), but with plenty of 2 EPBs, 2Hs, 2 BILs and 2 HALs, not to mention several MLVs which could sit with two together, a Bulleid 2 HAP still under construction (but able to run - seen in the photo), and future 2 HAPs from Bachmann to come, I think I can live with the compromise.

    So far, I think this is the best combination of storage and practicality I can achieve in the available space. I have used three Y-points plus a left and a right hand point each.

    [​IMG]IMG_20180401_161431 by Jeffrey Lynn, on Flickr
     
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    I have been wanting to run a decent length modern container train for a while. I have run such trains on the lower level but they don't really fit in there, being too long for the loops and with the locomotive disappearing into tunnel while the tail of the train is still in the tunnel at the other end. The upper level is intended to give clear views of the whole length of a train, so here's the result, with a Bachmann class 66/9, 66 725 Sunderland, in First GBRf livery on a train of mixed container wagon types.

    [​IMG]First GBRf 66 725 Sunderland on Container Train - 2 by Jeffrey Lynn, on Flickr

    [​IMG]First GBRf 66 725 Sunderland on Container Train - 1 by Jeffrey Lynn, on Flickr


    The locomotive itself was one of a pair of Bachmann class 66s that I won on eBay for very reasonable prices. The other loco was a standard class 66 in DRS livery. Being in Australia, with the seller also in Oz makes a big difference to the values achievable on eBay.
     
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    SMR CHRIS Staff Member Moderator

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    Hi Jeff are the above, could you use a 3 way point of the main with the “Center branch” to the loco yard and the “right hand branch” to the carriage shed this would get the extra length need for the EMUs etc, May not fit it’s bit hard to see the angles from the photos posted so far, but may be a solution to some extra storage if it fits
     
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    Hi Chris. That's true, but the main lines are code 100 and the Peco 3-way point for that is very different t the code 75 ones I am using for the engine shed area. I don't really want that on the main lines, even though it is a trailing connection.
     
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    Some stages in developing the scenery. I have been experimenting a bit with the area to the right of the level crossing and above the Newton Broadway LT signal box. This included using various colour blends and textures from Woodland Scenics, and part of a grass mat with the addition of some tufts and blending of edges using some static grass (also a mix of several colours).

    The first two photos show the effect before adding the static grass (although I did do a small section near the level crossing earlier, including the bits around the Landrover), and the remainder show the effect afterwards.

    The Landrover is a standard Oxford Diecast Post Office model, but shows the enhanced effect of simply 'steering' the front wheels a bit by bending the ends of the front axle - the screw construction assists greatly with this. The Landrover is destined to lose the signwriting on the doors and will be weathered a bit and matt varnished.

    [​IMG]Scenic Work - Area Nr LT Signal Box - 1 by Jeffrey Lynn, on Flickr

    [​IMG]Scenic Work - Area Nr LT Signal Box - 2 by Jeffrey Lynn, on Flickr

    [​IMG]Scenic Work - Area Nr LT Signal Box - 3 by Jeffrey Lynn, on Flickr

    [​IMG]Scenic Work - Area Nr LT Signal Box - 4 by Jeffrey Lynn, on Flickr
     
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    looking good Jeff, nice blending-in! :thumbup:
     
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  8. Gary

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    I agree with Ron, looking good. :thumbs::thumbs::thumbs:

    Cheers, Gary.
     
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    Thanks guys. :)

    Further progress and experimentation with the scenic area:

    The Landrover has now had the signwriting on the doors removed and a coat of satin varnish to tone it down a bit. I think maybe the peculiar extra roof needs to come off it too.

    I built a couple of laser-cut wooden kits, one for a garden shed, which is now sitting behind a terraced house in the village, and a platelayers' hut which has had an initial coat of paint but needs a bit more attention to complete it. I have also placed a length of bullhead track with the Bachmann Wickham trolley in the area, although if that becomes more permanent I'll need to add some ballast and alter the path a bit.

    [​IMG]Scenic Work - Area Nr LT Signal Box - 6 by Jeffrey Lynn, on Flickr

    [​IMG]Scenic Work - Area Nr LT Signal Box - 5 by Jeffrey Lynn, on Flickr
     
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    Nice Landy ! :thumbs: Just needs some dirt/dust on those tyres ! ;)

    Cheers, Gary.
     
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    Yes, a little application of weathering powders is next on the agenda for this Landy. :thumbup:
     
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    Speaking of weathering powders, I did a bit of weathering with powders on the platelayers' hut, and am quite pleased with the effect. It can be seen here with newly arrived preserved P class 0-6-0T, No. 323 Bluebell, running 'wrong road' on a short works train.

    The P is from Hatton's and looks absolutely stunning. It ran well on DC straight from the box, and after an hour on the rolling road was fitted with a Bachmann 36-568 decoder. It runs even more sweetly on DCC and is improving further with running on the continuous circuit. I'll look forward to receiving another, this time in SECR livery, plus two of their Andrew-Barclay 0-4-0ST industrial locos in due course. I'm very impressed.

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    Hattons P Class 0-6-0T Bluebell on Maintenance Train - 1 by Jeffrey Lynn, on Flickr

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    Hattons P Class 0-6-0T Bluebell on Maintenance Train - 2 by Jeffrey Lynn, on Flickr
     
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    Keith M Staff Member Moderator

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    Sounds like your "P" Class runs as sweetly as mine did straight out of the box, Jeff, obviously not made in the same factory as the Hornby stuff!:giggle:

    Keith.
     
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    Nice little locomotive Jeff. :thumbs: It would be ideal for a small industrial layout.

    I do like the weathering effects on the plate layers hut. Which brand of weathering powders do you use ??

    Cheers, Gary.
     
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    The weathering powders include some from Carrs (mud shades) and AIM (a range of grey to black and rust and earthy tones). The main ones used on the hut were a pale grey first, followed by grimy black then a little dark earth. Being a wooden kit, the wood grain captures the powders nicely.
     
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    Further works on the Scenic area above the LT signal box and tunnel entrance:

    The Landrover has also undergone a little extra work, including losing the signwriting on its doors and the extra roof (which required four holes to be filled then painted - I used BR locomotive green to touch it up), a couple of coats of matt varnish and some weathering with powders. I think it looks suitably battered and "used" now. A 4 TC set passes behind, part of a longer push-pull train of 2 x 4 TC + class 33/1 D6520.

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    Scenic Work - Area Nr LT Signal Box - 8 by Jeffrey Lynn, on Flickr


    The Wickham trolley's refuge has also been enhanced a bit, with more muddy area around the track, and the track itself has now been painted. S15 30830 passes by with a mixed goods train, including an ex-GW Beetle prize cattle wagon and two ex-SR cattle wagons as part of the fitted head. The Beetle is actually classified as Non-Passenger Carrying Coaching Stock (NPCCS), and is therefore in BR maroon livery, and could, in practice be included in passenger or parcels trains. This one may be being returned empty to the Western Region, hence its inclusion in an 'ordinary' goods train.

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    Scenic Work - Area Nr LT Signal Box - 9 by Jeffrey Lynn, on Flickr


    Finally, for tonight, I have been toying with the idea of adding an extra, fairly short goods siding in the vacant area adjacent to the locomotive shed area. This illustrates roughly the alignment and where the extra trailing point would be let in to the running lines.

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    Possible Extra Siding Near Engine Sheds - 05-04-18 by Jeffrey Lynn, on Flickr
     
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    Nice collection of industrial locos there - I have one of the Golden Valley PLA shunters on order (eta April/May according to Rails Of Sheffield). I like the atmosphere of your low level line as well - really works. Cheers Dave
     
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    Thanks Dave.

    I also have that PLA Janus on order, but a note from Fiona at GVH (when she sent a replacement handrail to me) says that the Port of London ones will be "Along in Summer" - that's the Northern Hemisphere Summer, so presumably June/July. Mine is also on order from Rails.

    I got the 'industrials' bug when I bought the first Hornby Peckett. I thought maybe I could do a small, portable exhibition layout to utilise them at some time in the future.
     
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    After experimenting visually with some track and a suitable point, I have spliced the trailing point into the outer track to provide a short refuge siding. This also involved converting the point as per the rest on the layout and wiring in a another auto-polarity switch, and while I had the soldering iron out, adding some extra dropper wires to the track further round the curve (which I had made provision for when wiring everything up before the BRMA meeting in March).

    Having laid the extra track, I now have to add a couple more dropper wires to feed the siding (although technically I could get away with just one wire and rely on the fishplates, because only one side is insulated at the point itself). I had put the soldering iron away so I could do the track laying, so I'll have to set it up again tomorrow to complete the job.

    I had hoped to fit the catch point in, but it needs a straight section and, as can be seen, that just doesn't quite work. I'll do what I did on my old layout, and put a false catch point in, with a rail attached to some sleeper ends, filed down to a point to blend into the running rail.

    A quick test through the point in both directions with a Peckett proved it was all working perfectly.

    You may also be able to spot the Hatton's P class crew added to the Peckett - they fit in absolutely perfectly.

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    Additional Siding Added 08-04-18 - 2 by Jeffrey Lynn, on Flickr

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    IMG_20180408_222042 by Jeffrey Lynn, on Flickr
     
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    I finished wiring the new siding this morning, a relatively simple job. The Peckett pictured yesterday propelled the wagons back into the siding under its own power all the way.

    I also went under the layout with a multi-meter at the church end of the storage loops to try to track a dead point frog. I thought I had found the problem (a dud contact on one of the bus wire connections) but there is still no power to that particular point frog. It's not a huge problem at present, but it means I can't run short wheelbase locos through that point.

    On a different note, a parcel arrived from hattons with some more surface-mount point motors, some wagons, some static grass, two motor coaches (The Kings Ferry), and a Dapol First GBRf class 73. A couple of bits came off during handling, one of which I have no idea where it goes! 73 141 Charlotte tested fine on DC on the rolling road (run for an hour or so each way), so a Zimo MX634D decoder was installed and tested. As expected, the direction of running was reversed with the headlight and headcode also illuminated at the wrong end, and the cab lights remained on at all times. I did the a couple of the same mods I did with my previous Dapol 73: a piece of tape was placed on the cab light contacts as a temporary block to the power, then the brush wires were swapped on the PCB connections (labelled M+ and M-). The cab light circuits will gain further modifications as per the first 73 later on, as this involves cutting tracks on the PCB and soldering new connecting wires.

    73 141 was then put on the container train being hauled by 66 725, Sunderland, and handled it with ease. 66 725 was posed for a better photograph on the programming track.

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    Bachmann Class 66 125 Sunderland - Portrait by Jeffrey Lynn, on Flickr

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    Dapol Class 73 141 Charlotte on Container Train - 1 by Jeffrey Lynn, on Flickr

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    Dapol Class 73 141 Charlotte on Container Train - 2 by Jeffrey Lynn, on Flickr
     

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