Oh no, what have I done ?? An O gauge layout...??

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  1. Gary

    Gary Will the real Gary please stand up... Staff Member Administrator

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    The third baseboard has been built and erected. It is 3mm lower than the existing two but that will be remedied once the cork goes down under the rails.


    I have changed the design slightly by adding a curve at the left hand end and a road bridge, aka scenic break. This curve will lead on to a small fiddle yard. I'm using the Lima set track curves as a template for this. The Lima curve track has a 30"radius radius which will suit all my locos and rolling stock.


    Now to get some track down...

    Cheers, Gary.
     
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    Loads of potential there Gary.

    Pete.
     
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    Not a vegetarian layout then Gary?? :facepalm:
     
  4. Gary

    Gary Will the real Gary please stand up... Staff Member Administrator

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    No Ron, no vegans were harmed or will be harmed in the making of this layout ! :avatar:

    Yes Pete, hopefully plenty of operating potential. I can see a short train enter, loco run around train, detach brake van and park in short siding then shunt such wagons into the appropriate spots. during this phase of operations, the empty cattle vans will need to be collected, salt van moved about and the loaded meat wagons taken off scene.... ;)

    Now, back to the base board...

    I wasn't happy that the third base board had no moulding on the front edge, so I had to fix that !

    This is the existing moulding on the 1st and 2nd base board...


    The difference between the two basebaords, baseboard 2 and baseboard 3...


    A strip of MDF was glued and nailed to the baseboard edge and rasped down to the required height...


    Then the moulding was applied to match the existing, or at least close enough !


    I'll have to sand back the existing moulding and treat all three the same, probably just paint the frame and mouldings black !

    As they say, the devil is in the detail.... :avatar::avatar:

    Cheers, Gary.
     
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    SMR CHRIS Staff Member Moderator

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    Lots of potential with the additional length and the curve into the scene,
    Gary you better let Toto know that it’s small locos only
    A 55 deltic or my 9F won’t get round that curve either.
    Very suitable for Ixion Hudswell Clark’s or Minerva’s range of tank locos,
    Are you going to stick with the 3 link couplers or try one of the available alternatives, like “Sprat and winkle”?.
     
  6. Gary

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    I have not yet decided on couplers yet. Maybe you could advise me on the bets fit for my rolling stock. Which ever way, it needs to be simple and easily obtainable !

    Cheers, Gary.
     
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    SMR CHRIS Staff Member Moderator

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    Couplers are a very personal choice
    I really like seeing the 3 links but for exhibiting can get tiresome, not so bad in O as you can see them and I’ve started using a magnet on a stick instead of the old style hook, works as long as the last link is a steal one, I still have to try Gormo’s version of the 3 link coupling system in Oscale to see if it will work but as my stock turns during the sequence it’s not really suitable at the moment.

    I like the Sprat and Winkle as you can propel wagons with them without the buffers getting locked on tight turns, as the coupler dose the pushing if you set it up in that way.
    can be used in a delay mode. Auto uncoupling using magnets in the track.
    Easy to use manually as well we have found a soft brissel bush you may remember that on my dads layout.
    Then there’s the Kadees but they don’t look good at all on British O scale sort of stand out like the dogs doodar’s only really suitable for between coaches as per the prototype.
     
  8. Gary

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    Oh, as for the radius of the curve, the old Lima Class 33 runs around it easy !

    I'll wait on the couplers to be decided upon in the future. No rush into that just yet as I still have a layout to build !

    Thank you Chris for your insight into the varieties available. :thumbs:

    Cheers, Gary.
     
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    :avatar:Ha Ha those Lima 33 will go round anything, I think they would get round a 18”curve.
    The Dapol Jinty will go round the peco set track ok but the Dapol 08 has issues and will bind up, with not enough side play in the mechanism due to the outside fame and cranks.

    There are so many couplers systems to choose from it’s going to depend on what suits your operating plan that will ultimately decide what is the most suitable.
    If in doubt stick with the 3 links.
     
  10. Gary

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    Thanks Chris for the extra info regarding radius. I have also read elsewhere that the Dapol Pannier will run on a minimum radius of 1020mm (40"). So I will look at what can be done to accommodate a larger sweep At the moment, 30" (760mm) is going to be two tight for other locos, but will be fine for what I currently have. Now I'll just play around with my track plan before laying track so I can get this right for the future.

    Thanks again. :thumbs:

    Cheers, Gary.
     
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    I printed out the track plan yesterday as a centre line diagram to save on ink. Now the fun of laying track will shortly begin...


    Cheers, Gary.
     
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    And we're off. :avatar:
     
  13. Gary

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    When I got home from visiting my parents today (dad was taken to hospital yesterday) there was a parcel sitting on my verandah at the front door. It contained some goodies all the way from the UK !

    My Parkside kits have arrived...


    I better pull my finger out and get some track down soon !! :)

    Cheers, Gary.
     
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    Some nice kits there Gary, the brake van makes into a lovely kit... the brake rigging is a bit fiddly initially to work out how it all fits together but well worth it in the end. :thumbs:
     
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    Great stuff Gary. I hope your dad is alright. :thumbs:
     
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    Thanks Paul & Toto.

    My dad is ok, considering he is 90 years of age, a few ailments tend to creep in... ;)

    Cheers, Gary.
     
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    Reading what York Paul has written about facing points, I looked at my layout track plan and had a rethink. Now being a branch line, I would always imagine that facing points would appear as they could never totally be avoided, but with a new track design, I have eliminated any facing points, except in the siding itself.

    O GAUGE new design colour.jpg

    One thing I'll have to re-evaluate is the length of the headshunt on the lower right hand corner. Being only 24" long, it will mean that a Jinty and brakevan (or any single wagon) can be shunted back and forth, but if I intend repairing/detailing my old Lima 33, well, I doubt I'd have enough room for loco and wagon. The deciding factor that I am working with is the red lines on the plan above. These represent the joins in the base boards and something I don't want the points to bridge.

    So, some constructive criticism is required from you chaps.... :scratchchin:

    Cheers, Gary.
     
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    Okay, I have just measured out 24" (600mm) on the layout and the old Lima 33 and the BR brakevan I purchased off Kimbo fits quite easily ! Now using Chris's advice on adding an extension piece of 2" (50mm) between the points can also be accommodated, although not shown above with the series of points on the right hand side.

    Cheers, Gary.
     
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    Once again, I have changed the track plan... :facepalm:

    Utilising the track I have, I have created this variation of the above. Just some subtle changes, but it introduces another few angles to the scene. The abattoir building has become smaller and no wastes platform, just the main building and the cattle yard. The introduction of the platform/station, goods shed and loco facilities adds to the whole scene. Would be great to lengthen the sidings to the goods shed and engine facilities, but the 24" allocated seems to work ok.

    Note that there is a gap between the two running lines. I found it difficult to manipulate short sections of track into the plan ! :whatever:

    O GAUGE new design anyrail ABC1C.jpg

    Now, if I was to shift the plan to the left a little to increase the goods siding and loco facilities, where would the best place to cut through a point be ??

    Cheers, Gary.
     
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    Interesting journey Gary. Not keen on cutting through points though. Brave man. :avatar:
     

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