On SRman's Workbench

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  1. SRman

    SRman Full Member

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    I have been working on a Hornby class 08 for a few months, and postin progress in my workbench threads on a couple of other forums (fora?). It started off as a BR green one with wasp stripe ends but is now in weathered BR blue and fitted with a Zimo decoder with Paul Chetter's sound and twin "sugar cube" speakers. It is now numbered D3219, after initially being D3272, as a pre-TOPS example based on the Southern Region.

    While I am now happy with the weathering and the amount of blue still showing (I over-weathered it initially so had to dry-brush some blue back on), I finally got round to painting the various handrails white. Unfortunately, this has now emphasised any kinks and bends in the handrails, plus showing up a few odd bits of fluff and cat hair that have stuck to the previous paint.

    When I bought the model, it was missing its footsteps. I have temporarily adapted some Bachmann ones from a chassis I used under a Maunsell shunter with a Golden Arrow Productions resin body. These will be replaced bu some PH Designs etched brass steps in due course.
    Still, the effect is not too bad, and the cruel close-up allows me to make the final adjustments to produce a convincing model. I do know that one of the front footstep handrails is missing and will replace that with a suitable length of brass wire and a handrail knob.

    The photos show a before, during, and after sequence of the processes.

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    And, since it got an "honorable mention" in the foregoing description, here's the almost complete Maunsell diesel-electric shunter. This is only awaiting fitting some lifting loops on the bonnet top and tidying up of the hand-painted wasp stripes at the cab end.

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  2. SRman

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    Also currently in the queue of things being worked on are some bus kits.

    This one is a Little Bus Company resin kit for the Duple Commander 36' coach. It comes with two alternative front ends, allowing for different operators' particular vehicle batches. Chief among those operators for the two styles were Midland Red for the one I didn't use, and Southdown as on my model.

    I have substituted white metal coach wheels on mine as the photos I have show the Southdown coaches had wheels with trims.

    Painting is all but complete, barring a few minor touch ups needed here and there (which the photos show rather too well).

    Glazing is the next step, after straightening the bent window pillars visible on the offside of the model.

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    Also on the workbench are two more Southdown bus models from the same source. Both are Leyland PD2/12 buses; the one that has been partially painted and awaiting glazing and a few other finishing touches has a Leyland body of the "Farington" style (these were later fitted with doors), while the unpainted and still partly not cleaned of flash model has an East Lancs body with sliding rear doors.

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    Can see why you like them SRMAN . Hopefully you will put up some more pics when in the finished state.
     
  4. Gary

    Gary Staff Member Administrator Golden Goat 2018

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    Nice looking models Jeff. :thumbs:
    Would like to see a video of the Hornby 08 with PC's sound. I must admit that I have not installed PC's sound into my Bachmann 08 yet, but I will do, directly after my next exhibition on the 5/6th March.

    Cheers, Gary.
     
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    Thanks, Gary and Sparky.

    I do like to video all of my sound locomotives and units, partly for the record, and partly to assist others in deciding whether they like the sounds before they spend rather a lot of money on buying decoders with the sound projects. Of course, there are limitations with using YouTube, getting a balance between reasonable sound and picture quality while keeping the files small enough to not cause problems with the downloads.

    Having said all of that, I have not yet got around to filming the 08s (any of them - I have another with legomanbiffo ESU sound, and another with original Hornby sound). There are also a few other locos with sound I haven't got to yet. Recordings are usually done during school holidays, when I am home and my wife is at work, so there would be no extraneous sounds in the background.
     
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    Would be good if you could maybe do a comparison video then Chris. . . showcasing each of the different sound modules in action, on the same video ?
    When you have time that is :thumbs:
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  7. Toto

    Toto Staff Member Founder Administrator

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    I spoke to Legoman Biffo at the Glasgow show and also heard one of his class 37's amongst others. Pretty impressive. He had a load of loco's on his stand, all sound chipped. Could have easily spent an hour or two there.

    Cheers

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  8. paul_l

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    Hi Jeff

    How well does your Hornby 08 run, mines an absolute pig, so looks like a full strip down and new pickups, mine has the hornby fitted esu 3.5 chip and sounds, not impressive, so would be very interested in hearing the other two to compare.

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  9. SRman

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    Of all the Hornby and Bachmann o8/09 models I have, only one has any running problems, and even that is only a slight 'catch' in one direction only, which I will investigate further in due course.

    The Hornby 08 sounds are not very good at all, hence choosing the other suppliers' sounds.

    I like to buy bargain sound locomotives with a view to using the sound chips elsewhere (this one cost me essentially just the price of the LokSound decoder, and I did want an EWS 08 in any case), and this 08 is no exception; it won't be keeping its factory sound for long ... in fact, it won't be keeping its sound at all. I haven't actually decided which locomotive or unit is to be sound fitted, yet, but when I do, that will dictate whose sounds I choose to put on.
    I fancy maybe a class 16 with sound, if I can figure out where to fit the speaker(s), or maybe the NRM Deltic will get it.
     
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    Must admit, I have a Heljan Cl 26 thats just crying out for a sound chip, and 4 DMU's, that sounded real easy, £500 in a dozen and a half words. Will be a while before that happens.

    Paul
     
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    Every so often, when I show photos of my layout progress, someone will observe and comment on the cream coloured, raw resin 2-car unit sitting on some track in the background on the upper level. This is a Bulleid-style, BR-built 2 HAP unit, utilising resin body shells and seat units from Ayjay Models (bought through Radley Models), sitting on Hornby 2 BIL chassis bought cheaply when Kernow Model Rail Centre had the Southern Railway liveried examples on sale.

    I have finally started cleaning up the body shells and seat units with files, and primed and painted them. I have also cut off the moulded on jumper cables on the cab fronts, although these are not too badly done by Ayjay. I still prefer to use finer wire for the cables.

    This unit is going into BR blue with full yellow ends. I would prefer the full blue and grey, which suited these trains quite well, but for the time period I wish to represent, blue fits better, drab as it is. The yellow is not yet the final shade as I have used Humbrol #69 for the base coats. I'll use proper BR warning panel yellow for the final coat. I have painted a wood colour for the interior walls and partitions (not sure if they were wood or plastic finishes on this batch of HAPs), and a light green for the cab interiors, but haven't done the seat colours yet. I thought perhaps a mid-grey for the second class seating (BR's 'Trojan" pattern) but am debating what colour for the first class upholstery: blue, black or orange, maybe?

    I am still to add the handrails for the cab fronts and guard's doors, as well as the jumper cables. I may replace the moulded on horns with brass or white metal versions I have in stock. The kit comes with both horns and a whistle moulded on, so the modeller just has to cut off the bits he (or she) does not want.

    Anyway, enough waffle; here are the photos as it goes until now. Please note that I have perched the freshly painted bodies on the wrong chassis for the last two photos in this sequence!

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    The seat units had to be modified a little to fit the Hornby chassis. This mostly involved a milling wheel on the Dremel tool to grind away the clearances, but also included a couple of holes drilled to clear the projecting components of the Lenz decoder sitting under the seats of the DMBS.

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    And finally, one photo with the body shells on the correct chassis!

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    Once the Bachmann BR Standard-style 2 HAPs become available, I look forward to mixing the types together in multiple. The Hornby mechanism makes this a lot easier than if I had used the original resin chassis and Black Beetle or Tenshodo SPUD motors.
     
  12. paul_l

    paul_l Staff Member Administrator

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    Really nice work Jeff
     
  13. Toto

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    Great stuff.
    a nice variety of subjects as well.:thumbs: love the buses.
    cheers
    toto
     
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    Thanks, Paul and Tom.
     
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    For my pre-grouping goods trains, I have quite a few colourful private owner wagons, plus a few southern area railwy owned wagons (SECR, LBSCR and LSWR) but in reality, wagons from other railways found their way over most of the British mainland. The problem for me was that most of the available kits or ready to run wagons are too new - I wanted wagons from around 1910 or earlier. With this in mind, I ordered some GWR wagon kits from Parkside Dundas.

    Today was officially the first day of the mid-year school holidays, and coincidentally, the three wagon kits I ordered arrived this morning. The kits were for a Mink/Mink A of 1907 build onwards, a Mink D of 1906, and a 10T 5 plank open built from 1909 onwards.

    I got stuck into doing the Mink D almost straight away, and have completed the build, plus a coat of grey primer all in this one day. The paint is still drying, so no photos of that, but here it is in 'raw' form.

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    All in all, a nice simple kit to build and the instructions are fairly clear. Painting in GWR grey will also be a relatively simple job as the GW painted everything grey, except perhaps the wheels and buffer heads, and of course, the white roof. At the time I want to represent, the GW lettering should be 25" size where it would fit (not sure about this on the Mink D), but I only have the next size down lettering available anyway. I'll be making do with that for the time being.
     
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    And a quick snap of the Mink D in grey primer.
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    Another nice build Jeff.

    Parkside do a nice job of outside framed wagons in both O and OO, not seen any of thier N wagons so can't commen .

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    Thanks Paul. Yes, the detail on the Mink D is beautifully crisp. The Mink/Mink A kit still in its packet also looks very sharp.

    Meanwhile, work on building the Parkside Dundas GWR 10 ton 5-plank wagon has commenced. There are still some components to fit, but progress on the kit was again rapid (like the Mink D I did yesterday).

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    Adding weight to open wagons is always problematic if one wishes to leave the interior detail visible. I am using some lead ball bearings here, glued on with a liquid contact cement. A few of the balls have stuck in the wrong places but I will clear them out before long. There is still not sufficient weight in this wagon, so I will have to fill a few more spaces in the underframe. I left the end areas clear so I could do my usual NEM coupling arrangement, using two spacers of 40 thou plasticard and the Parkside adapters (actually included with this particular kit). The Hornby fishtails fit better than Bachmann ones, which tend to be bit loose.To fix that problem, since most of my couplings are Bachmann ones, is to add a small blob of mastic in the fishtail slot.

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    Obvious items still to add include the tarpaulin bar, the door bumpers, handbrake levers, and the tiebars between the axleguards (actually moulded on the kit but they broke when I was cutting the parts off the sprues, so I will replace them with some microstrip).
     
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    Here it is again, all but complete now, apart from painting. Parkside include a length of plastic rod to form the tarp bar, but I decided to substitute some brass wire for this, glued into place with a superglue.

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    So far I have managed one Parkside wagon kit per day for two days, and started the third one today, albeit rather later in the day, so it is only half completed. :D

    The GWR Mink van has its body shell and underframe with wheels fitted, but no brake gear or buffers yet. the roof is only sitting loosely until I put some lead sheet in for weight.

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