Rob P's Rolling Stock Workbench

Discussion in 'Kits, Kit bashes & Scratch builds' started by Rob Pulham, Sep 26, 2017.

  1. jakesdad13

    jakesdad13 Staff Member Moderator

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    Rob Pulham wrote:
    Thanks Rob. Its one of 5 I had, foolishly I sold the other 4, I've been kicking myself ever since :faint: :facepalm:

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  2. Rob Pulham

    Rob Pulham Happily making models Staff Member Administrator Feature Contributor

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    Ouch!, I am sure that you are not on your own with regretting such a thing.
    I didn't quite get it for nothing but I have a 1939 Charles Roberts Wagon plate that I picked up for a fiver from a dealer. The only reason it was so cheap is that some fool had sprayed it maroon!!
    I took it home and repainted it back to black with white lettering and its now mounted on a piece of oak on my office wall.
     
  3. Rob Pulham

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    To carry on with this tale (sorry if it's a bit long winded). The 14ton tank sat in the stone coloured livery (Games Workshop Bleached Bone) for the best part of a couple of years awaiting it's transfers until I chanced upon a photo of a 14 ton tank in Yorkshire and Lincolnshire Tar Distillers Livery and I thought why not.


    So I drew up some art work and cut it out from white transfer paper in the same way that I did for the Singer vans.

    The first side took and hour and a half to apply - quite stressful at times. The second side took twenty minutes and was hassle free...


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    Oddly I didn't take any photos (that I can recall or find) of it before I applied the weathering
     
  4. Rob Pulham

    Rob Pulham Happily making models Staff Member Administrator Feature Contributor

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    And finally we get to tank number three.
    As a bit of an experiment mainly because I had a Skinley Drawing and I had a spare tank filler from the Slaters Tar tank I decided to have a go at drawing and cutting the tank with the Silhouette.
    At this stage it was purely done to do some tests on Vallejo Crackle medium as something to simulate tar residue on the top of the tank.


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    ]It turned out much better than I anticipated with the tank rivets being visible - I had initially cut them as markers for where I planned to drill out and insert styrene stubs but decided they were good enough.
    The neck of the tank filler is a spare Parkside vac brake cylinder
     
  5. Toto

    Toto I'm best ignored Staff Member Founder Administrator

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    More excellent results Rob. Your latest build there looks very neat. As you say, the existing rivet detail is good.n:thumbup:
    Good use of the brake cylinder as well.

    Cheers

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  6. Rob Pulham

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    Thanks Toto,
    The rivet detail was created by cutting small circles 0.5mm in diameter but the action of the cutter blade passing through the styrene creates a shoulder which in turn looks like a rivet.
    Then having primed it, the job was still a good un as we say in Yorkshire.

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    So next I added some transfers and it was at this point that I realised what Slaters had done with their kit - working from the drawing the Slaters transfers fit perfectly without any adjustment necessary.

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    You can also see the results of the experiments with crackle medium

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    It was at this point that I decided it had gone beyond an experiment and was worthy of building a chassis for.
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    As with the Slaters kit I also added the pipework, albeit on this one I worked from a different photo and had it coming out adjacent to the V hangers rather than in between them as on the Slaters version.
     
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    Hi Rob

    Excellent builds (as per usual),

    A question - on your silhouette cutter have you tried or can you use an embossing tool to do the rivetting, and what thickness of plasticard are you using ?

    Thanks Paul
     
  8. York Paul

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    Hugely impressive build Rob, you are indeed the master craftsman:thumbs:yes I too missed a rectank marked as Walkers Century Oils of Hanley Stoke on Trent... I ummed and arred about buying the kit from ebay and guess what one evening it was gone.:facepalm:
    cheers now Paul.
     
  9. Rob Pulham

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    paul_l wrote:
    Hi Paul,
    Although I have heard of the embossing tool I haven't tried one or really seen anyone who has - I suspect that they are more use for working with card to be honest but I might be wrong.
    Regarding the thickness of plasticard. I usually use 0.5mm (20 thou) for the main sides and 0.25mm (10 thou) for details like straps hinges etc. but the sides/ends/top of the tank in this case is 0.25mm overlaid on to some 1mm.
     
  10. Rob Pulham

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    Is Line Clear wrote:
    Hi Paul,
    I think that the Slaters kit comes with transfers for 3 or 4 different companies - Walkers, Y&L Tar distillers, SHell/BP and I am sure another but my transfers aren't to hand to say for certain.
     
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    To sort of bring this little tale to it's conclusion, these are how the three tanks ended up at the beginning of September (yes, I entered these in the modelling competition too:whatever: - they didn't get placed though).


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    Great photos Rob tar for that :facepalm:
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  13. Rob Pulham

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    ianvolvo46 wrote:
    Kof, Kof Groan.....
     
  14. Rob Pulham

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    Last year at Doncaster I collect a load of wagons that I had reserved from the E&T service most were Slaters of various types but a couple of open wagons that I had reserved (not knowing any better) were from the 3 Aitch Range.


    Having looked at them I realised that they weren't as good as later kits and could have refused them but they were only £12 each including wheels so I decided to take a punt.



    A month or too later I finally opened one of them and exclaimed Oh Dear! It turned out that they were really quite crude and the wheels were plastic.

    I popped them for sale on a couple of forums at what I paid for them but didn't get a bite.


    A couple of months later I had the thought that I might build them and paint them as condemned wagons by adding some internal detail and a major amount of distressing (they were similar to Slaters opens in that they have no internal planking or details).



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    Apologies for the photo overload but I was really quite proud of how they turned out and they sold within half an hour of re-advertising them.

     
  15. jakesdad13

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    Don't apologise for what are photos of excellent models, I have a 3H wagon that I picked up at Telford for a tenner, yes they are very basic but worthwhile spending time on.
    Did Colin Ashby take them on and sell them under his own brand? I bought a few when I first started in O gauge modelling, also very basic but I still have them, I did the same as you and put extra detail inside.

    Pete.
     
  16. Rob Pulham

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    Thanks Pete,
    I almost forgot that when I was posting the 14 ton Slaters tank I mentioned about making a second barrel using coke can ends inverted as the tank ends.

    This was part of a scratch build of another 14 ton tank
    The chassis was built from milled brass channel with MMP W Irons complete with working springing

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    I made a couple of jigs to help assemble them


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    I modified a Slaters casting to better represent the discharge mechanism


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    I also scratched the filler with a proper opening lid.


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    Sadly that's as far as it got and it languishes in my shelf queens, awaiting me getting back to finishing it.

     
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    More stunning detail Rob. The opening lid is quite something. :thumbs:
     
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    Thanks Toto,
    I really must get it finished...
     
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    Knowing that Jim is a sponsor of the site and like many others I suspect I have a fair stash of Jim's kit's. I have also built a few of them and of those a couple have been his rather nice [size=GER S]and Wagons.
    Like all Jim's kit's that I have built it goes together with the minimum of fuss and stress and provides the basis for further detailing.

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    I had some old Woodhead transfers that I bought from one of the stalls with lots of boxes of goodies at one of the Guild Summer shows when it used to be held at Halifax.

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    This is the finished article.
    Now I can't take any credit for the weathering on this one because it was completed before I plucked up the courage to have a go at any weathering - I had only just got the hang of spray painting.


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    Jim provides the tie down rings as part of the kit making adding the tarp a much easier proposition.


     

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