SANOOK South Australian Railways

SANOOK as I'm calling it at the moment

South Australian Inglenook

Sanook, Is going to be a working Inglenook within a Station scene Diorama, it will have a picture frame style display as per my Moonan Flats
Size must be able to fit in the Station wagon or Ute as a one section display for quick and easy set up, max length 1800mm, with 350mm height max 400mm, legs to be integral within the frame.
Dead line for finishing is the June long weeked 2018
Reason for building, to be one of the Model Railways within the Platform1 Stand at the Rosehill Model Railway exhibition promoting Platform1 and achievable modelling.

What I wanted and what I could fit in the space are too different things
Inglenook has 3 sidings, the Puzzle part of it works on a 5-3-3-3+Loco, ratio for lengths of stock in a given siding or shunting neck.
This is made up of 1 siding, 5 wagons capacity, 2 sidings with 3 wagon Capacity and a shunting neck or head shunt with 3 wagon plus Loco capacity sounds simple.

Initially I was planning on using my Bogie South Australian Goods rolling stock as I have some very nice and colourful SA advertising vans however I also wanted to have a Station as part of the Diorama with a Railcar on a Auto shuttle like Leadie69 had on his nook, I soon ran out of space within the confines of 1800x350mm foot print.
PlanB was to use my SA 4 wheel stock and compress the Nook part and with this compromise I got a plan laid out that works and can have the scenic elements I wanted as well.

The shuttle will have the Budd Rail car enter from a short hidden section Black stripe part on the photo and stop at the Platform top green and station building blue, the red area will be a cameo of a preserved railway society this will be gated to shorten up the Nook head shunt to loco and 3 wagons.
The other long blue area will be a low relief town scene against the back scene there is also a loop siding to make the Station scene look believable the station building will have a South Australian style canopy that will hide that the tracks end.

Photo below in place of a Anyrail plan as I cant fire up the PC at the moment

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Gary wrote:

Yes to DCC.
We will have a top display at Rosehill
I'm also thinking of taking the Rio Grande HOn3 as well for some real variety with the small layout easy to transport.

Re Rosehill and layouts, Newcastle is too big and I will aim for next year as will need at least 6 operators as it is labor intensive and so everyone can have a break, also Arakoola and Valley hights are going this year so they will need a big O scale layout next year

A side on photo of the track laid out

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No progress until next week a day of Christmas events and meals

 

paul_l wrote:

Well last year some of the O scale group took there big layout for Sydney to Telford for the GaugeOGuild show so in can be done and a lot of its layout sections contain wood for the track deck etc but we won't give Toto any ideas re exhibiting in the colonies

Re a Bit too small, its definitely is HO but looks like N scale now to me, but how easy is it to pick up I've worked out I can take one stock box to the show with the layout with all the locos needed and the wagons in the one slim line box so that another bonus.
I'm gong for a 10 minute set up drop the legs that are integral secure leg braces hang curtain around the layout plug in the power and be ready to opperate in 15 minutes after spending 5 putting the stock on the track.

Shelley has a lense that could make N scale look like G scale from 500 meters away it's a big bu gg er and they say size doesn't matter when you have to reach at arms length to take the lens cover off

Had an enjoyable day out good food and family at lunch
Then late dinner out with part of our local model train family, at a place called the Rusty Udder sounds odd but good quality food in a big old dairy.

 

So a week or two has passed and the new year has started but nothing had happened with the Nookplank.

But after it cooled down this afternoon I got the Tools out and spent 20minuts and cut the timber to size then glued N screwed the frame to the ply and then it was back onto the table to finalise the track positioning all basically as planned out with the switching of one point for a Y.

One good thing with peco code 75 is that the rail is a little tight in the chairs so you can curve a section and it will stay in position so no need to tack
Once it's all sorted and track sections cut to size and in position I'll trace around the track on the board then pick it up to lay the cork road bed.
Then I'll set to and make the peco points 100% reliable cutting the frog/ crossing V links and soldering links from the wing rails to the switch rails eliminating the blades from needing to conduct power the plan is to use a Tam Valley Hex frog juicer this will cover all point's so no chance of accidental shorts circuits that trip the comand station I've done this with all my exhibition layouts as there's nothing worst at a show than having to wait for the comand station to reset and all your sound Locos having to start up again
Next is to decide on point control I have a box of spare peco point motors to use and if a diode matrix is used with a single button for each siding this may be a easy way to go or I may follow Gary and go with wire in tube this will make the operators have a bit more interaction rather than just push a button etc

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Sorry for the late reply been out all day

Davoetype wrote:

Hi Richard
Yes will be using ECB's on the layout.
I use on all my layouts on the larger layouts, I have several to split the layout into Zones that way someone shunting in the yard if they cause a short it doesn't stop the main line and vice versa.

The Juicers power the frogs independent basically a auto power reverser to match the power flow in the frog as the train passes over no need to have a switch and if you trail through the point you wont short out if the point isn't correct.

See the link Ron posted

gormo wrote:

Thanks Gormo trying to make a full scene out of a Inglenook with out it looking like a inglenook and in small foot print. With details like the rail museum that is the limiting factor for the Nook part gives the loco length and 3 wagons to the Boundry of the preservation yard that will have a chain link fence and gate.

Gary wrote:

Yes was just Gronking around Gary
The frog Juciers aren't a cheap solution but they do work well you can get a couple of sizes ie number of out puts = number of frogs they will power.

Had planned on sticking down the cork tomorrow but Going to do a diagnosis and repair on a Modellers layout tomorrow who has a short that they can't find/fix so will get nothing done hopefully on the weekend.

 

ianvolvo46 wrote:

Don't worry Ian it's the shiny part of the Dark Side when it gets to that stage I'll show how the Cauldron fire is stoked and when to throw in the Frogs legs, it's just after the Goats Blood Ooooo that may be something else, let me check the recipe


Took a bit of a road trip today and fixed up a fellow Modellers DCC woes all good for him now and train are running again. but it looks like we are in for some very hot weather so it may put pay to any layout building

 

Davoetype wrote:

Yep it's a bit hot today sat the out side temp sensor on top of the new base board for Sanook and 41.4'c even in the lounge room with Aircon it's 28'
So there will be no layout work

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