St James's Station

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  1. Kimbo

    Kimbo Staff Member Moderator

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    The panels looks really good now Steve, nice job :thumbs:
     
  2. Toto

    Toto I'm best ignored Staff Member Founder Administrator

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    Someone has been busy :thumbs: like the panels.

    Cheers

    Toto
     
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    A Bullied pulling six uphill without slipping, that's better that in real life.
     
  4. paul_l

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    60019Bittern wrote:
    Ouch :avatar::avatar:
     
  5. StevePower

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    So I spent the day fitting tiny magnets to the remainder of the locos chosen to be fitted out today. The final tally is 30 magnets fitted to 9 locomotives.

    2 Battle of Britains
    1 West Country
    2 Q1s
    1 9F
    1 A4
    1 Jinty
    1 Terrier

    In terms of time to fit the magnets, it was taking up to an hour for the first few. There were issues with fitting the magnets low enough to have a good effect. I ended up using small pieces of Matt board (picture framing type) as a spacer between the loco and the magnet. I found this was a perfect size really.

    The most impressive test run of the day was one of the Battle of Britains with a very impressive TEN Passenger Carriages hauled up the 1/20 incline. That's 5 times what it could do in the Pre Magnet era.
    I made a consist of the two Q1s and they pulled 26 assorted wagons and I have no doubt they would be able to do more.

    I still think that extra lead weight in some locos would also be a benefit and I will work on that over the next week or so. I have a good supply of lead sheeting to cut and chop.

    What this means now that the magnets are fitted is I can run my trains at a reasonable length on the layout and I can have two on each track at a time without fear of the second catching the first on the incline because it starts slipping.

    The layout allows me to send the trains just around the top or dispatch them to the underground loops. I think I will start planning some storage lines down there too. I'm running out of space up top and am thinking about selling some rolling stock.

    I will upload some photos and maybe even a quick movie tomorrow.
     
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    A troublesome old Hornby decoder chip in one of the Q1s was removed and replaced with a new Hattons 4 function chip today.
    I spent a good half hour trying to get the Power cab to read and reprogram it but it just wouldn't play the game so it's gone.
    I have kept it to use as a decoder for something other than a loco. Maybe to control the turntable or layout lights or something.
    Fitting the new Hattons chip took all of about 15 minutes. I surprised myself at how fast I got it done. I quickly re connected up the two lamps at the front and added a flicker firebox nano led as well.
    The Powercab makes programming a breeze too. I love the ability to turn the lights into strobes or beacons. So I played with that CV for a bit before setting them permanently.

    I'm flat out getting my trains to run around 40 metres of track without stopping or derailing somewhere. At the moment it seems that every time I run trains on the layout something plays up. Today it was one of the Q1s that was derailing on a back curve. Of course it's a curve that is really really hard to reach too. I'm going to have to climb up there and have a good look at it. In fact I know I did this only a few weeks back. It may involve relaying that track perhaps.
    As much as I love the Q1s they are a real pain on curves and quite temperamental.

    The 9F has its moments too when it will just stop.......and then go again. It's bizarre. It's as if it just decides it's had enough. There's power getting to it but it just has a little rest. A quick push and off it goes again.
    The joys of DCC.
     
  7. Kimbo

    Kimbo Staff Member Moderator

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    It can only be either dirty track, pickups or possible if it's happening in the same spot the track feeds from the bus wire.

    1) With a meter check that you have the same track voltage on every piece of track including the point work.

    2) give the track another good clean, but if you use a track rubber then go over it a final time with isopropyl on a lint free cloth. You might be amazed at how much dirt comes off.

    3) Hornby pick ups can be a real pain. They really need to be removed completely and cleaned with isopropyl plus the inside of all the wheels, then reassemble and make sure that they are bent correctly to give contact with the side to side movement of the wheel sets.

    The Q1 that I have had the same problem with stop starting, in the end I added pickups to the tender and altered the pick up wiring on the loco. Works great now. I have Chris's q1 in bits at the moment so when we catch up I'll show you as its a bit difficult to explain.

    Re the 9F, if it's a couple of years old you need to check the tender wheels and make sure they rotate freely. I've just found two where the chassis metal has suffered expansion and has seized the wheels up solid, Hornby have been contacted about the fault which they inform me was a batch of faulty casting metal.

    Kim
     
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    StevePower wrote:
    Just had similar problems with a Class 08 and a Class 86, Steve.

    Thought it might be the track and wiping with a cloth it didn't appear to be very dirty.

    Then I cleaned it with a soft cloth and IPA, result dirty black marks on the cloth.

    Doesn't happen now.

    I'm not saying it is dirty track, but try a good clean before searching for other problems.

    Ed
     
  9. paul_l

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    Another solution maybe to lay some of your powerbase under the track in that area, it will clamp the Q1 down to the track.

    Paul
     
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    All good suggestions Kim , Ed and Paul.
    I will get some isopropyl and put it into the track cleaner.
    I will also give the wheels and pickups a really good clean.
    I'll invest in a good multimeter and check track voltages too.
    The hobby is supposed to be enjoyable but isn't when the stop start and derailing is going on.
    Thanks again guys.
     
  11. Kimbo

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    Steve, as Gary's topic shows even Toyota have trouble getting one to run :avatar::avatar::avatar::avatar:
     
  12. Gary

    Gary Wants more time for modelling.... Staff Member Administrator

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    I must admit that I had sporadic running on the first day and a half at the exhibition, due to the amount of crud that deposits itself on the rails in that type of environment. It wasn't until the wheels were given a full clean with isopropyl, not just a quick wipe over, that running was improved immensely.
    As for the Q1, well... I took my Q1 for a run down at the AMRA Clubroom layout (Mortdale) and boy, did I cause a problem. I managed to stop every train immediately in its tracks ! :oops:

    Cheers, Gary.

    ps, when you get your Q1 sorted, I'll send you mine... :faint:
     
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    Thanks Gary. Like James Bond I have a love hate relationship with Q.
    The Isopropyl sounds like the way to go. And as you say a really good clean, not just a wipe over.
    I will get stuck into it on Monday. The weekend is being spent building a massive Lego castle we bought online with my son.
    40 years on and I still Love Lego. is that wrong?
     
  14. Gary

    Gary Wants more time for modelling.... Staff Member Administrator

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    Not at all. I was in Kmart today eyeing off the Lego technical sets ! :thumbs:

    Cheers, Gary.
     
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    Gary wrote:
    Ooh yes. I do like that front end loader, or the big crane. Especially once it's motorized.
     
  16. Kimbo

    Kimbo Staff Member Moderator

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    Steve , Gary, I'll try and do a how to on the one I have stripped down at the moment
     
  17. StevePower

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    Locomotive I take it.
    After all this a family website Kim.
     
  18. StevePower

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    After the household chores and shopping was done for the morning, I settled down to paint the interiors of all of my resin buildings with a black acrylic.
    The reason for this is that when I put the lights in them the light does not bleed out through the resin making the buildings glow.
    Here's a video from a previous layout and as you can see they glow more than a nuclear reactor. About the 1:26 mark is a good example.
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rM4xRa81KVw

    I'll post photos tomorrow.
     
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    And while I'm typing, have a look at this website for 1/35 scale people. They are brilliant.
    Makes me want to cut and glue the dapol and Airfix ones to make them more interesting..

    http://www.mk35.com/en/23-wwii-civilians?p=2
     
  20. paul_l

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    Well spotted, the 1:43 are really good as well.

    http://www.mk35.com/en/16-civilians?p=2

    Paul
     

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