Thaxham light railway. A Great Eastern Railway themed terminus, in O gauge.

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  1. York Paul

    York Paul Staff Member Moderator

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    Hi Pete,
    I never post on the Guild forum and only very rarely on RM Web, I use these sites a bit like a library for the build threads... Platform 1 MRC is the social, interactive, friendly and sharing Forum by far. The Gazette is often interesting for the adverts but shows some cracking good layouts and projects too. Anyway Pete welcome to the Guild from me as well.
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    jakesdad13 Staff Member Moderator

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    Cheer's York Paul!
    Had another play on Anyrail this evening and using the Marklin 3 way point I have drawn up another plan and printed it off full size so I can plan where point motors will be and where the joint between boards is.
    Any way see what you think.

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    Apart from being 6" narrower than the finished layout it is more or less as I want it.
    Just noticed, there's a point where I had planned the joint. Looks like a rethink, maybe make board one 4ft and board two 5ft :scratchchin:.
    Actually, it could work in my favour as I already have two 4ft boards already made.......

    Cheer's, Pete.
     
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    York Paul Staff Member Moderator

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    Plans look great Pete, I know what you mean about joints getting in the way of points... or is it the other way around.:facepalm: I had the very same issue building Elton Crossing. The big disadvantage with mine is I wanted a very site specific layout where there was a scaled representation of what existed on the original site, whatever I did a pair of points got in the way:scratchchin:. In the end I decided the layout would live upstairs and not really see the light of day, that solved the joint problem because the main section became 8 feet in length:avatar:, I then added a bit more and it became an 11 feet board. Now it is too cumbersome to move out of the space but it is what it is ... a diorama layout scene.
    York Paul
     
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    jakesdad13 Staff Member Moderator

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    I've had a little play around today with the printed off plan.
    The actual turnouts and 3 way have a different geometry to the ones on the plan but not to different, I just need to tweak the finished track once the boards are done.
    Any way here's a couple of photos from this afternoon.

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    This was just a tryout but it has given me some ideas. As it stands my thought on making the fiddle yard a turntable won't work. Maybe having a sector plate with two roads would be better.
    Anyway I'm getting ahead of myself.

    Cheer's, Pete.
     
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    York Paul Staff Member Moderator

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    Pete that track layout arrangement i really coming on well now and I'm looking forward to seeing the tracks all pinned into place:thumbs:. Thanks for taking time out to post the pictures up... muchly appreciated.

    York Paul
     
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    jakesdad13 Staff Member Moderator

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    Cheer's Paul, just need to get my finger out and build the boards, I've cleared space in the spare bedroom though the woodwork will have to be done in the shed then taken upstairs or SWMBO will kill me :avatar:.

    Pete.
     
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    Rob Pulham Happily making models Staff Member Administrator Feature Contributor

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    Welcome to the Guild Pete,

    I do participate on the Guild Forum but I am very selective in which threads I post.

    I recently asked for comments/experiences on Shedmaster Kits (F4/5 and J24) and a comment by one gent that the F5 required Tripcocks led the thread on a very different, but very informative tangent. Which resulted in me renaming the thread so that all the useful information that it contains would be searchable later.
     
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    Pete,
    I tell you a little story about SWMBO here and the size of layouts, she thought all I would need was a board about 5 feet long and 18 inches wide, to pacify the situation I built just enough for the track but left bracing down the side to fit the scenery boards and backdrop on afterwards. As the diorama layout developed the utterances of "well just how big is this going to get then" were regularly heard, my reply was "not much more ... that's about it for now". So as the few buildings I have went in and the LED's were wired in the SWMBO situation suddenly mellowed and now all I here is "well don't those lights look lovely when are you going to build some more?" . So the moral of the story is go nano LEDs, add a some flowers in a garden and plant a few bushes or better still place a doggie into the scene somewhere.:avatar:

    Paul
     
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    It's funny how my missus can't see the big picture, if I bring home a rusty broken old motor bike its a pile of scrap, after I've stripped, cleaned, repaired and painted it then sold it for a profit, she wants her cut. With model railways shes no interest so see's any time or money spent on it as a waste, and as for finding room indoors for it, well I won't repeat her thoughts on that. :giggle:

    Pete.
     
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    jakesdad13 Staff Member Moderator

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    Now the weather has improved markedly I have made a start on the base boards. As I said previously, I have one (2 really-but I only need 1) 4ft board ready built, I just need to widen it 6inch. And some 4mm ply that I have run through the bandsaw into 75 x 1200 mm lengths (the boards were 600x1200) as I need board one to be 1500x750-5ft x 2ft 6inch I have had to join the side rails to make 5 ft.
    They are all now cut, glued and nailed together to make the sides ends and middle supports. (Just love my brad nailer!)

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    Going to let the glue dry, then fasten them together and see how we look.

    Cheer's, Pete.
     
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    jakesdad13 Staff Member Moderator

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    Its been a while since an update so I will share where I'm at now.
    I have assembled the framework for the boards, made and attached the legs and this afternoon made and fitted the leg braces, unfortunately I am one bracket short for the last brace. Soon as I have sorted that I will take some photos and post them up.

    Question for Rob P, have you any thoughts on ACE products loco kits?
    I need 2 J68's and Ace make a kit for them. I have read conflicting reports but I have built 2 Gateneal kits (and they looked and ran well) so I think I may be able to build them.

    Pete.
     
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    jakesdad13 Staff Member Moderator

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    A couple of photos of the base boards sans tops now on their legs.

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    The square of ply in foreground is the base for the fiddle yard/sector plate. The rest of the top boards have sit above this level so the track hights are level.
    I have put timber blocks between the cross members and side rails to raise the ply up 9mm . One is just visible to the right in the lower picture.
    If I build another layout, I will definitely NOT use this method again. Getting things to align is a proper PITA.
    I have cut the short number 1 board top and glued in the blocks so I will take a couple of photos after tea.

    Pete.
     
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    The base board tops are now on, and I have started sorting the track layout.
    I'm deviating from the original plan slightly as it didn't quite work. Where the tracks led into the sector plate area I have now curved them for ease of operation which gives the station area a slight curve, I think it will look better.
    I haven't pinned any track down yet as I need to sort where the point motors go.
    The 3 way point is the datum for all the rest of the trackwork. Unfortunately one of the switch blades came adrift so I had to repair that.
    Plus one of the copper clad points I bought needed repair and I've done that too.

    This afternoon I have been sorting out how to fit my servo point motors. I couldn't get any aluminium channel as per the Megapoints method so I have come up with my own design using ally angle. See what you think.

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    Here are a couple of shots of the 3 way. Because it is made from copper clad sleepers I have had to raise it up to the level of the Peco track using 3 layers of card.

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    This is the other point I repaired.

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    Thats it for now.

    Cheer's, Pete.
     
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    Spent a few hours this afternoon glueing down track, at the board joints I have soldered the track ends to brass screws. Once the pva has dried I will take some photos of my (glacial) progress.

    Pete.
     
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    That's quite a lot of progress Pete a really good thread :thumbup:

    Ian vt
     
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    Its been an age since an update. I have glued some of the trackwork down but got side tracked as its now steam rally season and I have been getting my engine sorted. Anyway this afternoon I had a few hours to spare so dug out board one and started the wiring.
    Its going to be DCC so I have installed the main wiring bus.

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    The cable is domestic 240 volt standard. Brown is live, blue is negative/return.
    I superglued two gapped copper clad pieces one at each end and soldered the cables.
    Turning the board, I cleaned the rail sides ready for tinning using my glassfibre pen.

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    I marked the position (roughly) of the bus on the top of the board and cut the dropper wires to length.

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    I drilled 2mm holes close to the rail side .

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    I next tinned the ends of the droppers ready for fixing to the rails.
    Important! DO NOT USE ACID FLUX!
    I used a paste flux more suitable for plumbing applications.

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    Dipping the bared end of the wire into the flux I then tinned it.
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    Next up I tinned the rail sides using the same flux using a small throwaway brush.

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    I then soldered the wires to the rail sides before threading the wire through the board.

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    Flipping the board again I then soldered the ends of the droppers to the bus.
    The black wires to the the blue. Red to the brown.
    I stripped the outer back about an inch or so, tinned it and then wrapped it around the bared section of bus. Note the bared sections on the two bus are staggered so as to avoid accidental shorts.

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    Thats as far as I've got at the moment.
    Sorry if it seems I am teaching granny to suck eggs here but there have been one or two posts from members who are uncertain of how to wire their layouts so I thought I would share my method.
    I hope it has been of interest and use.

    Cheer's, Pete.
     
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