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 Posted: 12 Aug 2017 10:59
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Iíve spent months deciding which wall the new layout would sit against.

I finally decided that the back wall, (left side of the plan below) was best, as although it meant the layout was a bit shorter itís got more light as there is a fluorescent tube directly above, and the layout can sit back against the wall which it canít where Latton Fields was situated, because of the gas pipe.

The blue outline is the current/old base boards and the new layout boards will sit on top.



Iím going to try cassettes for storage, as although my back problem prevents lifting too much, I should be able to just slide them around on the old base board, which effectively becomes a cassette table.



The track plan is just another version of the late Cyril Freezerís Minories track plan with a three way point. Hence my ĎThoughts on Minoriesí thread a few months ago.

As before, the black line/left hand side of the road bridge is the join between the two boards.




The brown block on the road is where Iíve been measuring up some Scalescenes low relief flats.

The 3D views show the station building suspended in mid-air above the end of the tracks with the entrance onto the road that runs along the back, but that may change to just a facade at the end of the tracks, or something low relief elsewhere.







Iíve salvaged all the electrofrog points and a lot of the track from Latton Fields, so track work will be code 100 and theoretically I only need to buy a Peco SL-E99 three-way point and one L/H SL-E92.

Iím moving away from WIT and rods for point control (sorry Gormo) and this time it will be solenoid point motors and DCC control. It seems sensible to get two Peco PL-10 motors for the three-way point as they will clip to it and avoid any alignment problems. I might try Seeps for the others but motor size will be a consideration, as the distance below the board is only the height of the battening of the new boards sitting on top of the old.

I also hoping all the points and necessary electronics will fit as planned on one board, which will cut down on the plugs necessary for wiring to cross the boards.

Available time and funds are going to make this a very slow build, but Iím not in a hurry and Iíd prefer to get this all working as I want, and not use cheaper alternatives just to get the layout operational.

More as and when it happens.



Ed





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Terrific Ed,

I like the plans and the 3 D views are great. Something I have not mastered on Anyrail. The slow build is something I can relate to. :avatar: and after all ....... There is no rush. Well, maybe not quite true for Luib Bridge as I have until November to get it running. Anyway. Sounds like you have it all thought through so I am looking forward to following your experiences as you go.

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Great start Ed, a definite change from Latton Fields, loads of operating potential.
I,m not a huge fan of cassette's, I have seen what happens when stock rolls off in a momentary lapse of concentration. I must admit though, if I extend my Wheeldon layout, I am going to have to use cassettes, due to space considerations, so I will see what you come up with and will probably copy them.
Good luck mate, following with interest :thumbs:.

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I stopped buying cassettes. ..... Ever since Sydney Devine stopped touring. I remember at one of his concerts, three elderly ladies sitting in front of me. They went to the toilets at least a dozen time each ....... Never left their seats once. ..... Them were the days ...... Old steak and kidney. :avatar:



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Plan looks good Ed, nicely executed. :thumbs:

As for a fiddle yard, if you have the space, have you considered a full length turntable ??



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Cheers, Gary.



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Might try some plastic guttering for the cassettes Pete, seen someone use in in O gauge.

Turntable is a nice idea Gary, but it would have to pretty big for a four coach train and I'd have to keep swapping trains on and off the turntable to get enough different trains in and out of the station.

Sorry Toto, had to look up Sydney Devine, but I am a sasanach :avatar:



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Trust me ....... You don't want to look him up. He's a real Bobby dazzler. :facepalm:



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Hi Ed, yes I've seen them too, cheap and easy to cut to length, they slide nicely too. Thanks for reminding me mate :thumbs:.

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Like the turntable idea. :thumbs:



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Check out the Wickes website, they do different widths, 60mm OK for HO and 114mm OK for O ??



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One of the members of YMRC mentioned problems with the Peco 3 way point, and as I was just about to order one yesterday (and I don't want to build a potential problem into the layout before I've even started), I thought I'd do some more investigation.

There are quite a lot of posts on various forums regarding derailing when turning left from the toe, and also possibly having to move the switch blades in the correct order when setting the road, or both sets of switch blades will be trying to be moved by one point motor.

Interesting posts on cs.trains.com (Model Railroader), where people have resorted to filing the end of one of the switch blades amongst other things.

Therefore thought last night it might be a good idea to see if I could replace the three way with two points, without shrinking the layout too much and I came up with this.



It does mean moving the Y point on to the left hand board and makes the head shunt slightly shorter, but the platform lengths are more or less the same.

Also makes positioning the supporting batten under the middle board (as indicated) without fouling any point motors, a bit easier.

Think this may be a safer option and two points are cheaper than a 3 -way.


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Hi Ed,

Looks good though I was thinking that there are two sets of points that could come out as I don't think they would change anything.

The set at the very bottom to the left and the set that they connect with on the next line up. Follow the routes through and it looks like it's two ways of doing the same thing.

One is the point leading into the parcels siding ( nearest it ) and the other one is the one connecting directly on to it. Hope I have explained clear enough.

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All traffic would then have to got through the left hand point next to the cross over Toto, creating a bottle neck.

As it's set up, a train can arrive at the longest (lower) platform, at the same time one leaves either of the two shorter platforms.



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Hi Ed,

I never looked at the fact that it would be creating a bottleneck right enough. ..... Darn. :scratchchin: thought I had saved you a couple of turnouts there but you are right. I think the bottleneck created would masked things a bit restrictive.

I'd say "you have it cracked then. :thumbs:

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Hi Ed, great track plan, looks like a winner to me.

Re Gary's turntable idea...I did one for my old oo gauge layout with 18 tracks of storage built on a internal door with a large lazy Susan for rotation. All the ends where curved to align the tracks up for incoming stock and out going stock with the two main lines. Worked really well. Maximum train length ended up at 2m. 6 coaches and tender train.
Kim



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