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 Posted: 10 Oct 2017 18:37
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Dave C
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During an exchange of posts with Ed about Latton Street the subject of using guttering for fiddle yard cassettes came up.  Given we are short of fiddle yard space on Setforth Junction for the vast amounts of rolling stock accumulated over the past 40 or so years this caught my imagination.
A rummage in the shed this morning produced a piece of square line guttering, so I decided to give it a try.
Firstly I checked that with twin tracks inside the guttering there was sufficient clearance – which there was, but don’t expect to get your fingers in there.  I then removed 2 of the branch line fiddle tracks, and repositioned the third to give a little bit more room.


The lead ins were cut off level, and shimmed to give the same height as the track on the guttering.  I had to slightly raise the far end of the guttering as the branch line fiddle yard isn’t braced as its only ‘temporary’ (just like the control panel was 16 months ago) so it’s not entirely level – and the guttering has been in the shed for nearly 5 years so my guess is that isn’t 100% straight either!  





Mrs C had donated some double sided tape, so the track was affixed to the guttering, and ordinary rail joiners attached.  This too is a temporary solution – clearly this won’t work for long, but to prove the theory it will do.

And after about 45 minutes work it works very well.





I tried manoeuvring the ‘cassette’ with the DMU plus Pannier and ‘B’ set, and the rigidity of the guttering is excellent – I thought there might has been a twisting tendency, but not the case.  So I’m now off to purchase a 4m length of guttering and some guttering brackets for attaching them to the wall.  I think a locating slot in the end of the guttering to ensure 100% alignment when putting into place is called for, and a better way of powering up the cassettes.  I’ll put end stops on the far end of the guttering, and perhaps a simple gate mechanism at the ‘entry’ end when moving the cassette.
Another advantage is that the length of the cassette can encroach over the entry to the room which should allow 6 or 7 coach trains to be stored – I’m confident that handling something that long by one person won’t pose a problem due to the aforementioned rigidity of the guttering, and that the bracket will be on the fiddle yard wall anyway, so it’s only and up and down movement required, not around.

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 Posted: 10 Oct 2017 20:10
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Nice one - if you get the end stops you can protect yourself from free rolling stock, put some foam on the end stops to minimise any damage.

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 Posted: 10 Oct 2017 22:01
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That deserves this :thumbsup:



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 Posted: 11 Oct 2017 00:04
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What a brilliant idea Dave :tophat::tophat:
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 Posted: 11 Oct 2017 08:18
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That's what is so good about our hobby it throws up all sorts of clever solutions :tophat::tophat:

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 Posted: 11 Oct 2017 08:43
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Clearance between the two tracks look ok on your set up Dave, but when I tested it with some coaches, I thought it may be a bit too close for some stock. Steam loco cab steps hitting platform edges came to mind.

That's why I was trying out some 3mm card or hardboard (Masonite) under the track. Raises the track and allows for a couple of extra millimeters between the two tracks. Doesn't affect the clearance between the rolling stock and the side of the guttering due to the shape of the guttering wall.

Might be worth testing with any wider rolling stock you have.

Mine (if I go ahead with it) will sit on top of a wooden batten, so I was thinking of jack plugs to get power to the cassette, but I suppose some vertical wires down the side of the guttering with connectors at the top would allow fly leads to be attached from the main board with crocodile clips, or something.

You've probably got your own way of doing it, but just my thoughts.


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 Posted: 11 Oct 2017 20:21
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Thanks for some of the ideas and observations - all welcomed.

The clearance is going to be a function of the guttering dimensions - if the flat base of the guttering is any narrower than the bit I've used then it will be a problem.  I should have a better idea of any issues this weekend when I try building a 'proper' one and powering it up. I liked Gormo's method on his cassettes but I don't have the raw materials or tools to do it that way.  I have however been toying with an idea using some wooden clothes pegs and some bits of copperclad......... Lets see what the weekend brings! 

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It's a great idea, I admit that when I tried it I found that my rolling stock got wet and was hard to reach, then again I didn't take the guttering off the roof first. I think that was my first mistake.
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 Posted: 13 Oct 2017 13:45
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Steve - you must have fitted end stops - don't fit the end stops, or put a downspout in halfway along :mutley2:

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Perfect. Thanks for solving a year-long dilemma. Couldn’t work out an easy way to solve this problem. Will be following suit!

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 Posted: 16 Oct 2017 21:52
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Quick update - got something working now that is reasonably reliable (and it uses clothes pegs :)). Currently on the Mk3 version. Hoping to finish it off by Thursday with a Mk4, and I'll post some photos and a video.

Dave C.

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