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 Posted: 19 Dec 2017 21:56
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I started off a similar conversation on the O Gauge Guilds forum and had lots of feed back with reference to suppliers and general comments on the system itself and its alternatives.

Anyone on here used this and if so, what on ?

I'm thinking of my Steve Beattie kits as I think they will lend themselves well to it having such a big internal compartment to house them. What's your thoughts ?

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Hi Toto,
Yes I've read your posts on the Guild forum and there are some good replies there.
So far my experience of the Delrin drive is to say tricky at the least, this is what I did, as you know I've got a PRMRP Hymek conversion kit ongoing on the workshop bench. The PRMRP kit I purchased has two powered bogies thus has two Delrin chains thus twice the issues, I'm not wanting to put you off but if you have an up down flat layout of about 15 feet with no real curves like mine then maybe a Delrin fitted loco is a bit of an overkill. So back with the Hymek bogie I found getting the best length adjustment without too much sag in the run was the main problem, once I'd got the correct amount of links I found fitting was best done by setting the chain over the first wheelset and then building the second wheelset up after having run the chain loosly over the second wheelset cog. Keep the chain away from any worm gear and don't fit it with tension, the chain will slacken slightly but once set up should remain good. The plastic is self lubricating so doesn't need oil and depending on space on the axle just watch to make sufficient room for the Delrin and worm gear cog to sit together. On the PRMRP kit the bogie is made up from an inner "u" shape frame which comes in two parts, this sounds easy but if the kit doesn't give you specific information about distances between wheels then you tread carefully because when it comes to fitting the Delrin as sure as eggs are eggs you will have to play around with the chain to make it sit properly. My next diesel kit will be a JLTRT Class 25/1 where the bogie set up is so much more simpler than the PRMRP approach but then that's scratching for you:avatar:.
Good luck Toto.
cheers for now Paul.

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Sounds a bit complicated Paul. .... And frustrating. :avatar: I'll bet that when set up correctly, they will be very sure footed. I think I'll try UTube and see if I can find an installation tutorial on there.

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Toto wrote: Sounds a bit complicated Paul. .... And frustrating. :avatar: I'll bet that when set up correctly, they will be very sure footed. I think I'll try UTube and see if I can find an installation tutorial on there.

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Toto don't let what I say put you off, it is quite easy once you get your head around how to put it all together and to me frustrations are just areas to be solved in the build, don't forget I'm a novice and am learning by trial and error. I'll put up a pic of the bogie set up with Delron for you this evening, I need to update on the Hymek build thread as I've done a lot more work on it and on the layout generally. Btw I spoke to Mr Ennis today and he will have my Standard 4 ready for dispatch by mid January the delay is down to redrawing the slide valves with a much easier assembly as the old kit was difficult to say the least ... so I'll post up pics when that comes too.cheers for now Paul



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No worries

Cheers. Look forward to the pictures.

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Toto wrote: No worries

Cheers. Look forward to the pictures.

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Here you are Toto and sorry about the delay in posting this picture, this is the Hymek inner bogie frame, now that I have mastered the chain installation I shall strip the bogie down to component pieces and re spray the chipped paintwork. I'll put some more pics up on my Hymek build tread.
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Thanks for that Paul. Is that plunger pickups I spy there ?
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Toto wrote: Thanks for that Paul. Is that plunger pickups I spy there ?
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Yes they are Toto... now a tip here I found is to wire each plunger individually so four plungers equal four wires, the reason I found is because of the tight space within a diesel loco bogie frame wiring plungers as per a steamer will hinder and retard a free springing action on the plunger tip and cause excess wear. When that happens electrical contact is lost and the loco stalls... as I found out to my cost:facepalm:... told you I am still a novice :mutley2: Also you may need to fit the O ring packer on the plunger if the inner frames are closer together and there is a greater distance between the plunger tip and the back of the wheel.
I have just added a few more pics to the Hymek build thread for you to see.



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Got them thanks. There is a lot packed into these frames. Not a lot of room to work with but obviously sufficient. I think that the building of these biggie drives is as interesting as the rest of the kit. Quite an accomplishment just to get that part running sweet. Thanks for the leg up. It is much clearer now........ Just as daunting, but much clearer.:avatar:I'll need to get a shopping list together so I have the parts for at least one loco available in stock when I decide to have a go. In fact, it would make a nice little project just getting the bogies built and running themselves. :avatar:
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