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 Posted: 2 Jan 2018 23:36
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Cheers Paul for the heads up.

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paul_l wrote: Cheers Paul for the heads up.

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You are very welcome Paul, if I can offer any advice here I will, building points in O Gauge is no different from building them on the big railway, something that I was involved with in my time in a former life on BR. I'll post you a couple pictures here to demonstrate how headaches can happen.

Here is the siding end of the B8 crossover road I posted earlier, what we can see is tight gauge beyond the stretcher bars on the turnout side, tight gauge occurred by me inadvertently setting the thinner profile Peco and Marcway rail too tight in the gauging rollers... how did this happen? Well as you gauge up the rail by gluing the C&L chair onto the sleeper the thinner section rail tends to "roll" within the groove of the rollers and tilt inwards inside the C&L chairs, the result is tight gauge, with C&L rail the rail head is held firmly and in position within the rollers. I use 4 rollers spaced every third sleeper apart when setting the gauge, remember if tight gauge starts to occur unchecked the gauge will become incrementally narrower and bind the wheel sets of rolling stock passing over. When this happens the wheels will climb the rail and the flange will ride along the top of the rail... this happened to me just after the point blade openings. Everytime wagons passed through the turnout from the siding the third wagon would ride up over the points and derail on the first wheelset. If we count the sleepers from left to right in the points on my picture we can see the third timber in is the one on the point blade ends and is fitted with a soleplate, now two more timber past and we come to the first 9 foot timber, here we had the start of tight gauge and the cause of the derailments, the camera picks up the inward kink of the outside rail. Now count three more timbers in and we can see some of the P1 Block and S1 chairs have been removed, this is where the tight gauge had started to make the points useless. The timbers are ABS plastic and the solvent I use here is Carr's Butanone, the remedy was simple, free the old chairs off by sliding a scalpel blade underneath widen the gauge and reset using replacement chairs. this picture records what I was doing and now the problem is solved. The picture was taken before replacement new chairs had been  fitted. I opted to fit new Pi chairs and their Blocks because the older ones became damaged on removal and meant reusing them would have impaired the free swinging of the switch blades. Cheers Paul

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Now I'm not trying to bomb your thread Paul with my pictures but this general shot shows the geometric relationship of a crossover road inserted into the transition of a curve, just like on the big railway the same mathematical principles apply. Now we need to get hold of the PW gang and get them to clear away all those half chaired sleepers that have been dumped up the batter edge. I think they could be in that little cabin on the right playing cards :mutley2:

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So how many chairs do you think you can print out on the 3D printer Paul ??

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Don't even go there ....... :scratchchin:  :facepalm:

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Just as a comparison

The top sleeper is the Burmese Teak

The middle is untouched

The bottom is antique country pine



Notice that the Teak ones were put in the lare over a week ago and are still drying out (stains on the paper).

Still waiting for my chairs

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The Burmese Teak look good to me, whereas the Antic Country Pine look a lot like new sleepers.

That is one optical illusion going on there as well. I'm guessing all sticks are the same width ?? :scratchchin:

As for those chairs, haven't you started printing them yet... :mutley2:

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Burmese teak :thumbs: look more oil stained and abused.



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No optical illusion, the un-stained one is from a different supplier (140mm long 5mm wide, whereas the others are 178mm long 6.5mm wide), but saved me having to go out to the shed to get one of the same batch for the photo.

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Toto wrote: Burmese teak :thumbs: look more oil stained and abused.
Wot he said:thumbs:



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Burmese Teak for sure!



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Yup, burmese teak for me an all.

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The Teak one without a doubt Paul :thumbs: 
cheers York Paul



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Any one know if C&L finescale are still trading, I ordered the chairs etc on the 15th Dec, and made the payment (which has to be by bank transfer !!!!!), when the status a few days later was still at Processing, I filled in the contact us part of the web site, no rep[ly, but now we were in the run up to Christmas, then I did spot a post saying they were off until the 8th of Jan - fair enough I thought. So still no reply to the contact request, I tried to phone the number - several times, still no response, and sent another contact request, and still no response after 4 days.

In the contact request I only asked for confirmation of payment, not even if the goods had been dispatched. Thank goodness I only ordered £43 worth of stuff.

Not a happy customer or is it victim.

Well Gary's suggestion of 3D printing my own may well be worth looking in to.

Not a happy bunny

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paul_l wrote: Any one know if C&L finescale are still trading, I ordered the chairs etc on the 15th Dec, and made the payment (which has to be by bank transfer !!!!!), when the status a few days later was still at Processing, I filled in the contact us part of the web site, no rep[ly, but now we were in the run up to Christmas, then I did spot a post saying they were off until the 8th of Jan - fair enough I thought. So still no reply to the contact request, I tried to phone the number - several times, still no response, and sent another contact request, and still no response after 4 days.

In the contact request I only asked for confirmation of payment, not even if the goods had been dispatched. Thank goodness I only ordered £43 worth of stuff.

Not a happy customer or is it victim.

Well Gary's suggestion of 3D printing my own may well be worth looking in to.

Not a happy bunny

Paul
Paul, How many and what type of chairs do you need? I have 3 bolt and 4 bolt ones and can let you some if you get stuck.
York Paul




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