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 Posted: 14 Jan 2016 06:30
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I have just commented on Ian's thread (On30 Shunting Layout) regarding his fiddle yard, and this had reminded me that I have not posted anything in relation to the fiddle yard on Industry Lane... :whatever:

I built the fiddle yard using the very same technique for building the baseboard on the scenic section. This is 11mm x 18mm pine sandwiched with 3mm ply, at a total length of 24". I had added some 'fingers' to the fiddle yard frame where it will slot into the main scenic board. Off the bus wire was soldered a fairly strong and durable connector, for power supply to all 5 departure/arrival  roads.

This pic below shows the simple method of connecting the boards using the 'fingers' and also the power connection. The tracks are glued to 3mm MDF using PVA. The MDF is the same thickness as the cork underlay used on the scenic section, so that eliminates any 'step' between the two boards.



Lined up and ready to be slotted into place. The power connector also slots into the void between the baseboard top and bottom.



You can see the two seperate sector plates. Three roads for the main branchline entering the scenic section and a two road sector plate for the oil/fuel branch.

Once assembled, it looks like this below. The length of each siding will hold short trains only. For eample a Class 25 and three (TTA) tank wagons or a Class 08 and 3 x YGA Sealions or perhaps a Class 22 and four Presflos...



There is enough movement in both sector plates on the 12" wide baseboard.

First to the left,



then swing back to the right.



Eventually the fiddle yard will be boxed in from the front of the layout. The front wall will be removable for when I want to play trains at home.

Cheers, Gary.





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 Posted: 14 Jan 2016 07:08
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Hi GARY,

Looks the part. Good sturdy connection as well. I'm sure that you'll have no reliability issues with that.

The Class 22 with the press lows sounds the part. In fact, anything that involves a class 22.

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As you have already guessed, not a lot has been done on Industry Lane. Before I went away, I played around with some PVA to replicate water in the canal. A small lot was poured in and spread about. I let this sit for about ten minutes to allow it to find its own level, then I added some dirt/stones/ballast to the mix. This gives the effect of erosion and wash along the canal walls.

This is the end result after allowing it to cure for the time I had been away and upto now.



Looking down, it does look opaque with a greenish tinge. The green is from the base colouring. I don't mind the opaque look as it is an industrial canal where and when everybody dumped their wastes. Have you ever seen a crystal clear industrial canal ??

Here is a close up over the soil/stones/ballast along the base of the walls.



By pouring the soil in after the glue, it creates depth where if the soil had gone in first, a lip would have formed on the PVA at the edges where it meets the soil. This would not have looked real good and would have been a PITA to remove.

Today I have been tediously removing and planting some weeds in the canal. I used a pack of Noch 'Reeds' and a pack of Noch 'Water Knotgrass'. I also took two barrel/44 gallon drum halves, filed an angle on them and removed the lid of them both. The lid or top of the drums were filed fairly fine with a quarter round jewellers file.

This is the result.



The other half submerged drum is further up the canal near the canal tunnel mouth.

I will allow all this to cure/dry overnight and then I will go back over the surface of the PVA with anotehr very thin stippled layer, but not too stippled as these canals flowed slowly, taking its effluent and wastes out to sea or a nearby river system.

Whilst I'm posting pics, here is one of the Presflo I weathered on the layout.



Can't do a lot on the layout so time will be better spent weathering the other 5 x Presflos... ;)

Cheers, Gary.



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 Posted: 30 Jan 2016 04:07
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The only thing missing on that canal Gary, is the smell.!!!....:mutley2:
The Presflo is a little ripper.....well weathered and weathered well.
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Hi Gary,

Great work as always. I like the canal bed. I think you'll need to review the disposal licences of the surrounding companies. I don't think they are playing ball. :avatar:

The presflow is very impressive. Very well done. Great eye for this type of scene.

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Toto wrote: I think you'll need to review the disposal licences of the surrounding companies. I don't think they are playing ball. :avatar:
Don't know about that Toto, I don't think enviromental issues were that important 40-50 years ago ! :mutley2::avatar:

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Aye, twere great days, made me the man I am today........ er no comment

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For some reason every now and then when I click onto a thread it go,es back to the start, I didn,t fast forward this time though and went from the beginning again, and I really enjoyed it all over again, to watch the development from planning to fruition is great, to see the alterations made and to carry on as if nothing had changed because the joint is seamless is brilliant and now the little finessing of the scene is starting and it is a pleasure to watch, well done mate :worship::worship:.
Now get back to work.

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Another 2 like's from me Gary 1st for the water effects 2nd for the press flow
If you want a little heavier effects on one try adding some talc power to the paint gives a light grainy effect of built up concrete residue.
The idea of dropping the sand into the mix after poring is a really good one :worship: and has given it a nice effect of muddy silt build up.
When you do the next layer and do some light stippling concentrate the disturbed water stipples in the direction of the flow away from items like the barrel and the reed edges and keep the middle fairly smooth, will make it look like it has a gentle flow. As would have little wind disturbance of the water in a narrow canal like this.
Again great work there Gary
Looking forward to seeing it get even better
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Great result on the canal Gary,I suppose they didn't have any shopping trolleys back then or there would have been at least one in there !
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Thankyou Pete, Chris and Matt.

Slowly but surely all teh little details will be added, including a shopping trolley ! I have some very fine mesh that I purchased at the beginning of the build, just for this purpose. I might even fold up a small box, add some handles and then after weathering, sink it ! :mrgreen:

As for the water ripple stippling, you are spot on Chris regarding flow and ripple direction. As for the adding talc to the paint, the only paint that goes on is a clear matt sealer at the very beginning. See my video on how this wagon is weathered :

http://platform1mrc.com/view_topic.php?id=322&forum_id=15

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I got around to weathering the other 5 x Presflos, all in various states of weathered age. Some are weathered heavier than others for variation.







I have noticed on this pic (above), that the cement doesn't quite make it to the ribs. This has now been repaired, recovered etc.

At the moment, I'm waiting on some strips of static grass and reeds to cure as I have been making some more reeds for the canal. My opinion is that there is not enough weed growth in there. By laying out a piece of 'baking paper' (no other paper will do), and squeezing a few lines of PVA, static grass (12mm) can be stood into the PVA. Allow the PVA to go off for about 5 minutes so that the static grass remains upright. A few longer lengths of Noch field grass can be plunged into this as well to vary the height of the reeds.

These are them...



The excess static grass will be shaken off then they will be airbrushed a dull olive gree colour, before gluing to canal bed.

Cheers, Gary.



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Great modelling as per usual. Nice to see some Noch plants being used and I love the rusty drum.
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We may have to watch out for the web police, when your advocating running a few lines across  paper :mutley2:

Lovelly results as normal, you going to put some of your excellant wild flowers in there as well ?

Paul

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The wagons are the biz Gary. Top job.

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