Great Chesterford Junction Part Two

Discussion in 'Members Personal Layouts' started by gormo, Dec 5, 2015.

  1. gormo

    gormo Staff Member Administrator

    Messages:
    5,991
    Likes Received:
    4,140
    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2015
    Yes Toto,
    A security fence like the ones around the airfield.
    These sidings are to be part of the Little Bardfield and Bamford Heritage Railway and possibly contain workshops or buildings of some description to indicate that restoration work goes on there. The security fence could be like an afterthought manufactured by the Railway Society to keep the cows,sheep, layabouts,boffins and general dogs bodies out of the area.
    I may have to create some derelict locos and coaches to set the scene.....I have some duds laying about which could be ideal. This will take weathering to the extreme.
    They also can be taken off layout when storage is needed for running sessions.........either way it`s a win.......:thumbs:
    :tophat:Gormo
     
    jakesdad13 likes this.
  2. gormo

    gormo Staff Member Administrator

    Messages:
    5,991
    Likes Received:
    4,140
    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2015
    The brick wall is finished so no more little piers to stick on........Duh!!!##@****:faint:
    I have created a rod for my back here.?

    Here are my little soldiers holding the coping in place until the glue goes off.


    DSC00020.JPG



    DSC00021.JPG


    And from the track side.


    DSC00022.JPG


    Next over to the removable panels. Some issues to sort out.... a bit of trimming here and adding bits there to plug up holes etc......all will be covered by polystyrene sheet so the viewer will be none the wiser eventually.


    DSC00023.JPG


    Then onto the initial fit of polystyrene.........this is the absolute basic core which has further polystyrene to be added on top of this once the first lot of glue (PVA) goes off.


    DSC00024.JPG

    At the moment at it`s highest point, it is roughly 105 mm


    DSC00025.JPG

    So next stage is to add some polystyrene on top. This will be small bits to aid with developing some sort of natural looking shape to the landscape. Once all the bits are glued on I will go to town with the hot wire and get some shape into it. I will probably need to use a knife and a saw as well to get it looking the way I want it.
    Speaking of which....I`m winging it at the moment.....just jump in with a basic concept and see how it pans out.
    Hopefully some sort of flow will occur and we`ll finish up with a nice rural landscape.
    I`ve decided to go minimalist in this case........just a couple of buildings and roads and fields.
    I think this will be harder to get right than a full on little village.......we`ll see.?.....but in a lot of cases, country stations could be a mile away from their dedicated villages.....so we`ll go with that theme....have a crack at it and see what happens.??....Don`t think about it too much....just do it. !!!

    :tophat:Gormo
     
    Andrew Laing and jakesdad13 like this.
  3. gormo

    gormo Staff Member Administrator

    Messages:
    5,991
    Likes Received:
    4,140
    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2015
    G`day Folks,
    Well the polystyrene has been fitted to the two halves of the removable section and sculpted with hot wire and a knife to something resembling a country landscape.


    DSC00033.JPG


    Here is an old model of a cottage that will be rebuilt , coloured and fitted out to suit the scene.


    DSC00034.JPG

    The next thing to be set up before I can continue on with the landscaping, is the bridge that forms the exit from Little Bardfield heading towards Bamford terminus.
    The bridge height will determine the height of the land where the two meet, so I need to build the bridge first and then sort out the landscape.
    I`ve cut down some bridge girders I had laying about and built a wooden frame for them to sit on.


    DSC00053.JPG


    A trial fit shows the hillside on the right sitting higher than the bridge. The hillside will be cut to suit.


    DSC00054.JPG


    Next I made some rivet detail for a supporting girder for the underneath of the bridge. I used my home made rivet tool.


    DSC00058.JPG


    And fitted it to the bridge.


    DSC00059.JPG


    Then cut out some road supports. These are not yet fitted permanently.


    DSC00061.JPG


    And then some lower sections of girder. I need to make some more rivet detail for the middle beam under the bridge.


    DSC00063.JPG


    The top road section also needs to be fitted in and then we can spray the whole thing and then focus on the brick work and retaining walls.

    More as it happens
    :tophat:Gormo
     
    Last edited: Oct 31, 2020
    Andrew Laing and jakesdad13 like this.
  4. gormo

    gormo Staff Member Administrator

    Messages:
    5,991
    Likes Received:
    4,140
    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2015
    OK Folks,
    More work completed today,
    Rivet detail was added to the central support beam under the bridge.


    DSC00069.JPG


    Worked out the card sections for the front of the piers. These will be covered with Scalescenes brick paper.


    DSC00072.JPG

    And fitted a card section for the road base.


    DSC00073.JPG


    The bridge was then air brushed


    DSC00074.JPG


    Underneath as well


    DSC00077.JPG


    I then weathered the painted areas before going ahead and wrapping the other sections with brick paper. Additional card was added to give the impression of heavier brick supports / foundations at the base and some trim under the girder at the top of the piers.
    You will notice a cut out at the lower bottom of the left hand pier.This part of the pier has to clear a bracket that connects the baseboard to an adjoining wall, so that`s why we have a cut out section.


    DSC00094.JPG

    The next stage is to work out the placement of the back scene. I have a scene with a road included that I will try and line up with the bridge. The rest of the back scene will work out and away from this critical start point.


    DSC00097.JPG


    I have used two back scenes to work out this area. The lower part on the left is an overlay of the top part.


    DSC00099.JPG

    I am building two triangular shaped retaining walls that will connect to and work away from the bridge, dropping down in height the further away they are from the piers.. The retaining wall on the left will also move away from the side wall slightly at an angle to form a triangular gap, into which I will insert a slim sliver of sloping land. I will attempt to colour match static grass on the slope, to the grass in the back scene.
    I am fairly confident that if I get that right, the transition from scenery to back scene may fool the eye a little to give a good effect.
    There will also be the same style of retaining walls built to suit and fit the back side of the wall behind the bridge to give the impression that the landscape just continues on to infinity...fingers crossed there.


    DSC00101.JPG

    I also have to work out some bridge pylons for the ends of the girders. The right hand side will be fitted to the polystyrene scenery and not be attached to the bridge at all , however the pylons on the left will simply be brick paper cut outs stuck to the back scene.

    More as it happens folks.......:thumbs:
    :tophat:Gormo
     
    Last edited: Nov 2, 2020
  5. jakesdad13

    jakesdad13 Staff Member Moderator

    Messages:
    4,535
    Likes Received:
    2,071
    Joined:
    Dec 14, 2015
    Proper 'andsome mate, well done!!

    Cheers, Pete.
     
  6. gormo

    gormo Staff Member Administrator

    Messages:
    5,991
    Likes Received:
    4,140
    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2015
    Thanks Pete......:thumbs:
    :tophat:Gormo
     
  7. Davoetype

    Davoetype Full Member

    Messages:
    745
    Likes Received:
    373
    Joined:
    Jun 14, 2016
    A huge project Gormo and making me feel guilty as Dargan has needed to be ignored while my Koi contemplate breeding and our garden requires constant attention.

    Cheers

    and happy modelling

    Richard
     
  8. gormo

    gormo Staff Member Administrator

    Messages:
    5,991
    Likes Received:
    4,140
    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2015
    Yes it is a huge project Richard,
    But unlike you , I have been ignoring my other duties whilst powering on with this project.
    The guilt police will be paying me a visit soon and SWMBO will be after me with the broom methinks......:scratchchin:
    :tophat:Gormo
     
    steve and Davoetype like this.
  9. gormo

    gormo Staff Member Administrator

    Messages:
    5,991
    Likes Received:
    4,140
    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2015
    Getting there folks,
    The left hand back scene is ready to have scenery plonked in front of it now.
    The bridge retaining walls are partially complete.


    DSC00114.JPG


    And the view from the top of the hill above the station.
    This back scene over to the left is probably the most complicated one I`ve attempted so far. It`s a combination of two different landscapes and in parts it has been layered five times, with only small bits here and there, yet it was necessary to get the height I was after.


    DSC00117.JPG

    More as it happens
    :tophat:Gormo
     
    jakesdad13 likes this.
  10. paul_l

    paul_l Staff Member Administrator

    Messages:
    9,848
    Likes Received:
    5,902
    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2015
    That is most impressive especially the transition into the road. Probably way to late to say this, but it may have been better if the bridge was angled slightly to align with the road a little better, and allow the viewer to see down the road.

    As usual a great result.

    Paul
     
  11. gormo

    gormo Staff Member Administrator

    Messages:
    5,991
    Likes Received:
    4,140
    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2015
    Thanks Paul,
    I`m afraid the bridge has to be the way it is. The angle required to get a good view down the road would be too extreme in this case.
    I have found with my bridge over the station at GCJ you get distorted views of the road over it anyway. Just depends on where you are standing.
    I`ll take some pics in a while and post them up.....it`s kinda weird.????....Gary has seen it......:scratchchin:
    :tophat:Gormo
     
  12. gormo

    gormo Staff Member Administrator

    Messages:
    5,991
    Likes Received:
    4,140
    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2015
    OK Paul,
    I took some pics......maybe somebody can explain this optical illusion........??????:scratchchin:
    This is the bridge over the station at GCJ........the background pic of the road was taken down from the net and printed and cut out to suit the dimensions of the location on the wall relative to the bridge.
    This is the view looking straight along the middle of the bridge.........the road appears to go off straight ahead into the distance.


    DSC00121.JPG


    This is the view from the left of the bridge and the road now appears to veer off to the right and on into the distance.


    DSC00120.JPG


    This is the view from the right of the bridge and now the road appears to veer off to the left and go off into the distance.?


    DSC00119.JPG

    So I have come to the conclusion that when you are using a road off a bridge scene as a back scene, consideration of the viewing angle is all important, because the road may appear to go off at an angle that you did not, or could not anticipate, and I still don`t understand why we get this effect.
    Weird man !!!!o_O
    :tophat:Gormo
     
    jakesdad13 likes this.
  13. paul_l

    paul_l Staff Member Administrator

    Messages:
    9,848
    Likes Received:
    5,902
    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2015
    I think it's called parallax.

    The answer is trees and lots of them to stop anyone viewing from the wrong angle ;)

    Paul
     
  14. gormo

    gormo Staff Member Administrator

    Messages:
    5,991
    Likes Received:
    4,140
    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2015
    OK...thanks Paul,
    Well trees will certainly always be part of my railway, especially useful for hiding little blips in the back scenes, and also now for parallax correction.?
    :tophat:Gormo
     
  15. gormo

    gormo Staff Member Administrator

    Messages:
    5,991
    Likes Received:
    4,140
    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2015
    Well folks,
    A little more done today.
    Brick piers have been fitted into the retaining walls.
    Retaining walls have been also completed for behind the bridge, and the track in that area has also received some ballast.
    You can see masking tape through the bridge opening, which is keeping the line of ballast in check and leaving a clear surface to glue the retaining walls to.
    I`ve also cut down / modified a line side hut which will disguise the linkages that operate the point just there. I will probably glue the hut to the wall once it has been painted.
    I`m also experimenting with the back scene in behind the wall to suggest the scene just carries on beyond the bridge.
    I think that looking through some of my photographs has helped me resolve this now......I can see where I`m going wrong. It all makes sense once you work it out.....the penny dropped eventually.....:facepalm:


    DSC00128.JPG

    :tophat:Gormo
     
    jakesdad13 likes this.
  16. gormo

    gormo Staff Member Administrator

    Messages:
    5,991
    Likes Received:
    4,140
    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2015
    I have the form work ready for the slight hill on the left of the bridge here. I will probably plaster it before putting it in place, it just makes things easier.
    The retaining wall on the left is now fixed permanently.


    DSC00131.JPG

    This is a behind the scenes shot of the other side of the bridge.


    DSC00133.JPG


    You actually have to bend down to see this stuff through the bridge from the other side, however it`s nice to know it`s there instead of just a black hole.


    DSC00135.JPG


    And this is some of the scenic back ground that can be seen through the bridge opening. This is not quite right and I`m going to change it for another more appropriate scene.


    DSC00134.JPG

    That may be it for a while......we`ll see how things pan out.?

    :tophat:Gormo
     
  17. gormo

    gormo Staff Member Administrator

    Messages:
    5,991
    Likes Received:
    4,140
    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2015


    :tophat:Gormo
     
    jakesdad13 and Vinylelpea like this.
  18. Vinylelpea

    Vinylelpea Full Member

    Messages:
    733
    Likes Received:
    476
    Joined:
    Dec 22, 2017
    Thanks Gormo, you're my hero. Inspirational :tophat:
     
  19. gormo

    gormo Staff Member Administrator

    Messages:
    5,991
    Likes Received:
    4,140
    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2015
    Wow Vinylelpea...!!!!!!!
    What a compliment.........thank you....:thumbs:
    :tophat:Gormo
     
  20. Gary

    Gary Wants more time for modelling.... Staff Member Administrator

    Messages:
    7,316
    Likes Received:
    3,847
    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2015
    Just caught up on this Gormo and I must say, this has come along quite nicely. We wouldn't expect anything less from you though... ;)
    The bridge looks the dog's doo-daas as you would say. Great work indeed. :thumbs::thumbs::thumbs:

    Cheers, Gary.
     

Share This Page