Hornby TTS Sound decoders

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  1. Davoetype

    Davoetype Full Member

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    From the pages of Platform 1, I know that many modellers of UK layouts use the NCE Procab system as do I. But a simple enough question which I do not seem to be able to solve.....

    Will my Procab system operate a Hornby TTS decoder? I will only ever have one such decoder as I am planning to introduce the Flying Scotsman into my Dargan layout representative of its 1988 visit to OZ. If it does work are there any issues that could arise?

    Assistance would be appreciated.

    Cheers

    and happy modelling

    Richard
     
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    Hi Richard yes it will work the pro cab system uses the standard NMRA DCC settings as do all Decoders .
    The only thing you can not do with the TTS decoder is to change the speed table.
    The only time I have needed to do this is to speed match a conisting pair of locos. So yes it will work.
    Be seeing you
    Bob
     
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    Thanks Bob

    Bad luck about speed matching as I was also intending for a NSW diesel to assist the Scotsman through my blue mountains. Every loco in my fleet is speed matched to 70 kph. Sounds like I will experiment my matching the diesel to the Scotsman. Anyhow, looks like I will be able to schedule a new video based on Scotsman's visit to Australia, circa 1988. Thanks for your help. Scotsman order has been placed.

    Cheers

    and happy modelling

    Richard
     
  4. paul_l

    paul_l Staff Member Administrator

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    I've got one of the A3 TTS chips to be fitted in to a V2, as I've never heard either one, I'll just be happy in my ignorance, and enjoy the fact I can chip a 2nd loco for the price of one - proves I've lived in Scotland too long, at this tare I'll be an honoury Yorkshireman soon :avatar:.

    Paul
     
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    What I gather from the various YOU tube tests of the sound it appears to be quite good but I have no idea as yet how to access all the different horn sounds via my NCE pro cab which just uses a single button for the whistle. Perhaps there may be some instructions with the loco which I expect to receive later this week. A Kadee to the tender and then I should be off and running?

    Cheers

    and happy modelling

    Richard
     
  6. Gary

    Gary Wants more time for modelling.... Staff Member Administrator

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    The Hornby TTS are ok from my understanding. For the price, they are a great entry level to sound. I have noticed that the cylinder beats are not accurate to wheel revolutions, but hey, for the money they cost, they are good enough. The other option is to fork out £95.00 and up for an ultra-realistc sound decoder...!!

    Cheers, Gary.
     
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    Andy_Sollis Staff Member Moderator

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    There are some settings on the speed which I have reprogrammed on the sprog/decoder pro interface... as the file definitions are designed for each model, it would seem daft having the option to change it if you can’t.. I’ve never come across a decoder yet that doesn’t allow it, even the basic adjustment like start and vmax.

    I have a mallard, Scotsman, tornado and class 60 sound decoder from Hornby.. all run well.. the main limit is that you can only play 2 sounds at once not 8 like most of the big despises..

    hence the name Two Track Sound..

    Andy
     
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    Thanks Guys

    Flying Scotsman complete with TTS decoder has arrived and after a bit of playing around with JMRI and a strange event is running very well indeed.

    A few strange things happened during the evaluation phase when horns started blaring without reason, speed setting went from 28 to 128 by itself as did transfer to yard mode. Rebooted the system and ok for a few minutes then other errors were evident. Obviously it must have been this new rotten decoder as all was well before.
    I don't know why but next day I disconnected cab 02 ( I have three cabs) and no more problems. Reinstalled 02 and back they came.
    02 has now been reset to factory defaults and there have been no further issues. With DCC it just goes to again demonstrate that you should never blame the obvious.

    Cheers

    and happy modelling

    Richard
     
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    Flying Scotsman's introduction to my Dargan layout is now complete and she is the star of my latest video. I must admit that I do like running her around the layout. I have not reduced the sound levels as I like the unfamiliar (on my layout) scream of a high speed British loco's horn in the Aussie countryside.

    Cheers

    and happy modelling

    Richard
     
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    hi Richard
    Glad you are happy with your TTS chip. I have a few on my layout and the only thing I have done to them is alter the bottom, middle ,and top speed settings.
    Andy thie Min max are not speed matching.
    Heres a pic of the differance bettween , on the left a ESU Loksound and on the right the TTS

    Be seeing you
    Bob
     
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    Hi Bob
    I have nor seen a need at this stage to speed match the Scotsman as I don't think I will be running it with my Australian models. All my steam and diesel locos are speed matched to 70 KPH which gives me total flexibility, particularly with diesels as using a range of different diesel locos on the one train is still a common sight here. Because of the bumper grain harvests this year, operators are bringing back into service a large number of locos that had been in storage for some years. They are even borrowing locos from heritage operators.

    Cheers

    and happy modelling

    Richard
     
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  12. Andy_Sollis

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    Bob, in this case you will have to use the tab before. Not all will support the speed curve but will still have the v max etc. It’s still setable just not as detailed if you like.
    Andy
     
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    As I said Andy you can only set top, mid and bottom.
    Bob
     
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    If anyone is interested, Kernow Model Rail Centre have quite a few TTS decoders going cheaply at present.

    As per some earlier comments, the steam ones don't synchronise with the wheel revolutions, and also go up in distinct steps rather than smoothly transitioning as speed increases or decreases, but the diesel ones work particularly well with this sort of set up as engine sounds don't have to synchronise with speed so much as with load. I can say the class 08/09 diesel sounds are particularly good.

    They are by no means perfect, but as Gary said back in March, they are excellent value for the money, now even more so at the bargain prices.
     
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