A 3D printing virgin

Discussion in 'Workshop Benches' started by Mossy, Aug 8, 2021.

  1. Andy_Sollis

    Andy_Sollis Staff Member Moderator

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    Funny. I came home from work the other evening and thinking… why is the local News half an hours s why is pointless still with normal people?
    I then realised it was Friday and Not Saturday, so your not alone this week!
     
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    Welcome to my world...........
     
  3. Mossy

    Mossy A classic grump Yorkshire man Full Member

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    Some how, I have managed to ding the FEP plate, probably as a result of the print failures when I was trying different cure settings.
    Based on Paul's advice no more printing until replacements arrive from Anycubic, delivery has been advised at 5-12 working days.
    I have also fitted a screen protector as per Andy's advice further back in this thread. That was seriously fiddly manipulating the protector around the resin vat posts.

    During the print down times (a wagon body takes between 4 and 5 hours), I have been fiddling around drawing bits of a V1/2 brake based on the diagrams in Ian Sadlers book.
    The screen prints below show where I have got to. The interior is very conceptual as I have never seen a photo of the inside. Rob P has very kindly sent me .stl files for a brake standard and pot bellied stove which will be added in. I am also thinking of adding a coat rack, but the thought of coat hooks (arghhhhhhhhhhhhh - just one step to far). Why bother with the interior? a) cos I wanted to and b) hopefully I have drawn it is such a way that the doors will slide open exposing the interior.
    Still to do are the end posts and the whole chassis and underframe bits.

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    I'm current stuck trying to figure out how to do the rain strips and chimney base in the diagram as below. I'm sure some is going to say do a, b, c and d and prove how easy it all is.

    V1-2 Brake Van Side View.jpg

    Then to get even more ridiculous it would be nice to come up with this variant, it only needs a small change to the sides and roof:

    V1-2 Brake Van.jpg

    Plenty to do.

    Mossy
     
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  4. Andy_Sollis

    Andy_Sollis Staff Member Moderator

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    Eh? Did you not get the right size? Mine is no where near them? Just sticks over the screen (although just a little instruction sheet may have been useful!)
     
  5. Rob Pulham

    Rob Pulham Happily making models Staff Member Administrator Feature Contributor

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    I have some photos of the inside of the v1/3 van at Beamish. I will dig them out and send them.
     
  6. Mossy

    Mossy A classic grump Yorkshire man Full Member

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    Hi Andy,

    Yes it was the right size, but fiddling it between the posts and getting it aligned correctly was a real &*^%$* of a job.
    And yes i thoroughly agree just a few simple instructions would have been nice.

    Rob

    that would be really good cheers mate.
     
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  8. Mossy

    Mossy A classic grump Yorkshire man Full Member

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    Cheers Rob,

    I just have to figure out which ones are of which end.

    My initial thoughts are:

    Cream/Stone above waist line, deep red below.
    Photo of the stove must be looking towards the lower end of the van (based on the position of the chimney in Ian Sadler's drawings).
    Brake Standard floor mounted, I assumed in would be on the raised platform,
    Second photo, that must be the raised platform behind the brake standard, I was expecting something more substantial.
    Love the bashed up table in photo 4, but cant figure out which end that is.
    Photo 5, I love that thing that looks like a toilet pull in the corner, but it cant be - can it?

    Its a pity no-one has ever drawn a floor plan, they are probably just not as anally retentive as me when it comes to brake vans.
    I will have a play with my layout to at least replicate some of the features in the photos.

    Mossy
     
  9. Rob Pulham

    Rob Pulham Happily making models Staff Member Administrator Feature Contributor

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    Yes, the birdcage end was semi partitioned off with the brake standard and raised bits. The stove as you surmise, was in the lower end.
    To be honest it was as black as night in there I am surprised that any of the photos came out, I just pointed the camera and hoped for the best.
     
  10. Andy_Sollis

    Andy_Sollis Staff Member Moderator

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    20F72C45-7F40-4957-93CD-4FA46CF1E88E.jpeg The brake wheels are quite nice models!

    well drawn Rob, I may need to come to you for some lessons on Fusion :giggle:
     
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    Rob Pulham Happily making models Staff Member Administrator Feature Contributor

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    Thanks for the compliment Andy, It's really appreciated since I have only been 3D drawing for about 6 weeks or so.
    I am more than willing to share what I have learnt along the way though.
     
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  12. Mossy

    Mossy A classic grump Yorkshire man Full Member

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    Rob,

    Along with Andy I think I would benefit from any drawing advice you can give as well.
    I am currently struggling with wagon springs and axle boxes. But they are just the current headache.
    I think each of the 3 wagons I have/am drawing have taken at least 4 restarts each.

    Mossy
     
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    Almost at the spring and axle box stage, so i'm all ears for any tips

    Paul
     
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    Mossy A classic grump Yorkshire man Full Member

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    Paul

    I'm not sure you need tips from me. This had been drawn using part of a drawing as a canvas. I'm not happy with the actual springs and very unsure of the relationship between the springs and the axle box. I've missed at least one spring so I'm s till fiddling about to try improve things.

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    Mossy
     
  15. Rob Pulham

    Rob Pulham Happily making models Staff Member Administrator Feature Contributor

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    For axle boxes I would suggest familiarise yourself with offset planes and creating new sketches on faces that you have previously extruded. I haven't had a go at leaf springs yet so I will have a dabble at some point.

    Perhaps what we aught to do, is pick a subject/object and do a joint drawing project?
     
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    paul_l Staff Member Administrator

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    For the Mono X viewers

    Chitu systems have released Toughened glass screen protectors for the Mono X
    Just ordered up mine - $29.99 which at the current conversion rate via Paypal cost me £22.85 for 3 screen protectors.

    I may also have the not flat build plate issue, that the Craftsman resis seems more susceptable to.

    This video may be of interest



    Mossy
    If you extrude each spring leaf, and apply a fillet to the edges (just like the wooden planks). That should give seperation between the leafs.

    I intend to keep the springs and axle box assemblies as seperate items, allowing the axle box to move up and down on the compensated / sprung versions.

    Paul
     
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    Great idea Rob, I'm up for that

    Paul
     
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    Mossy A classic grump Yorkshire man Full Member

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    Yep Rob

    I'm up for it as well, how do we set about it?

    Mossy
     
  19. Rob Pulham

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    First we need t agree on what we are going to draw and share a dimensioned drawing so that we are all working off the same hymn sheet as it were.

    Then decide when we are going to do it.
     
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    Mossy A classic grump Yorkshire man Full Member

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    Rob

    It needs to be something which we all need advice on, so from my perspective, something involving the loft function would be good,
    alternately wagon springs or axle boxes would also help just now.

    Having said all that I will happily go with the majority view.

    I presume we would be using something like zoom, so I had better check it's in working order on this new pc.

    Mossy
     
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