A question for the Fusion 360 experts

Discussion in 'Workshop Benches' started by Mossy, Oct 26, 2021.

  1. Mossy

    Mossy A classic grump Yorkshire man Full Member

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    It was a freebie. I replaced the pc about 3 months ago, the motherboard failed on the old on and the replacement board and installation was £125 i.e. not worth doing on a 4 year old PC. It came with Windows 10 installed and a note saying a free Windows 11 upgrade would be provided when it became available. I'm committed now so I guess I will have to get used to it. One very annoying "feature" I have already found is in windows explorer the paste function is hidden in other options. Who would dream of moving a basic function like that to a subsidiary screen, luckily ctrl c, ctrl v still works for copy-paste.
     
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    Mossy A classic grump Yorkshire man Full Member

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    To conclude the saga of the mysterious body appearing when printing the fish wagon.

    After finding the foreign bodies in screen grabs 4 and 5 I created two new stl files one of the chassis and other of the body and did the same Chitu test, both bodies had disappeared which simply added to the confusion. In the mean time Rob undid and reapplied his changes of the mark 2 wagon and resent me the stl file. I then reapplied the tests and they had disappeared so it appears to be some strange corruption in Fusion 360 that didn't show up when viewing the stl but did after slicing.

    I then went through the normal Chitu process of supporting and slicing the stl and fired up a fresh test print which printed with no problems at all. We all live and learn but it would be nice to know what happened and why but sadly I guess we never will.

    Mossy
     
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    paul_l Staff Member Administrator

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    Interesting .......

    Why was Fusion down sorry offline, I just wonder if there was an issue with there cloud services as it is the cloud service that does the export to .stl function.

    Glad everything is back to normal.

    Also interesting that Chitubox didn't see the plane to support it :scratchchin:

    Paul
     
  4. Mossy

    Mossy A classic grump Yorkshire man Full Member

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    Paul

    I think we all know why software suppliers like could based software - piracy, but even after all these years its definitely flakey and prone to problems when there is a heavy demand. In this instance as to what actually happened I think will remain a mystery just a part of the tapestry of life. :headbanger:
     
  5. Rob Pulham

    Rob Pulham Happily making models Staff Member Administrator Feature Contributor

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    There is also the issue of software support, if the supplier hosts the system they can't blame the local IT when it doesn't work. Opposite to them not getting piracy of course.
     
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    paul_l Staff Member Administrator

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    Having worked with MS based systems, please explain the concept of support, I thought they used the grenade method, pull pin and run like **** ! - sell software open packet - support has now expired as you opened the packet.

    Cloud is ok, but I built a system capable of 3D modelling, video editing and playing mine sweeper and solatare and now MS will sell me the only PC games I ever played - they were free in XP and earlier, how ironic, I finally pay for a license and the free games disappear :facepalm:.

    I am tempted to look at Blender, as that is not cloud based so I can use my builtin ram & horse power, and for an Honorary Scotsman and trainee Yorkshireman the price is right. I just don't fancy starting from scratch again, and I like the Fusion time line feature.

    Ah well, back to the virtual drawing board or pick up the physical wee paint brush and get back to painting the Timber wagons :whatever: ;)

    Paul
     
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  7. Mossy

    Mossy A classic grump Yorkshire man Full Member

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    IBM used an interesting phrase about their mainframe software.

    Any function which didn't work correctly and that they had no intention of fixing (and there were any number of them) were always described as "features".
    That must be the politest way of say *&^(%% off and don't bother us.
     
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    Rob Pulham Happily making models Staff Member Administrator Feature Contributor

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    That was one of the most irritating things that Microsoft engineers (especially the Yanks) used to come out with in relation to bugs, too. I wonder who coined the phrase first.
     
  9. Mossy

    Mossy A classic grump Yorkshire man Full Member

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    The IBM mainframe boys were using feature before Sinclair came out with the ZX, IBM with the PS1 or Microsoft's first Windows.
    I'm so long in the tooth as to remember them all. In fact I can get back to using 80 character cards as data input but not quite back to plug-board programming.
    But where did it start - lost in time I guess.
     
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    paul_l Staff Member Administrator

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    I think the phrase is un-documented features - those that were for the good would become new documentated features for the next release, the rest would remain un-documented until someone got fed up getting hassled about it, or magic occured and it dissapeared as quickly as it appeared.

    Now I do recall Bugs came from the original valve based computers, where spiders webs would cause shorts giving errors, so a technician or engineer would be dispatched to remove the bugs in the system.

    Paul
     
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    The one thing I hates about Windows was the error message that used to come up “sorry, you can’t do that, please contact the system administrator…”

    :scratchchin:

    well, I am the administrator, it’s my computer and I’m telling you to do this..

    “please contact the system admin.”

    :mad::mad::mad::headbanger::faint:
     
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    paul_l Staff Member Administrator

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    Whereas Linux will give you a cryptic message followed by RTFM - I'm a white over 60's male, I've never read the manual, and they wonder there's a slow uptake. As for apple they'll just show a nice picture and tell you real apple users don't need that. Ok where's the F***ing manual :avatar:

    Paul
     
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    Mossy A classic grump Yorkshire man Full Member

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    Hi Guys

    Since its a new year, I thought another silly Mossy question was in order.

    I have been following the Leek Station developments for a fair while now, and was especially struck with the lamps, Andy printed.

    Over the Christmas period I have been playing with a 49ft coach, yeah the only way it could be printed on my Mono would be in 3 sections, so for now it's another drawing only project.

    The roof has pairs of gas lamps above each of the seven compartments, but the sketch isn't detailed enough to figure out the lamp details, but I have a very detailed sketch of an NER 52 ft clerestory coach which has excellent details of the lamps and gas pipe runs. So given the extracts attached, what would be the best way of drawing these in Fusion. I wondered if the best way would be the same way a chimney is create. Any other suggestions gents. And before Mr Lancaster pipes up, if it every gets printed, I have no repeat no plans to electrify them.

    Happy New Year everyone.

    Mossy

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    Rob Pulham Happily making models Staff Member Administrator Feature Contributor

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    I would draw both profiles, do a revolve and then cut the through them to the profile of the roof then add the block for the pipework and remaining details.

    A Happy New Year to All.
     
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  15. Mossy

    Mossy A classic grump Yorkshire man Full Member

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    Thanks Rob,

    Play time I've never used revolve so that's going to be a new one - always good to learn.

    I think I sent you a copy of the Dia 7 Composite. It's incredibly detailed, but has obviously been reduced from a bigger drawing as many if the dimensions are unreadable. which is a real pity.

    Best of all its got great details of the interior of compartments, most of which is legible.
     
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    Mossy A classic grump Yorkshire man Full Member

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    Well revolve was very simple I now have a lamp correctly positioned on my quarter roof.
    Next was the pipe support and pipe run, though I have to admit I cant figure out the exact shape of the support, versions 1 and 2 have been scrapped and it's getting late, plus too much excellent Jura whisky consumed to try again tonight.

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  17. Rob Pulham

    Rob Pulham Happily making models Staff Member Administrator Feature Contributor

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    I use revolve almost as much as any of the other commands.

    That has come out really well.
    My next Fusion task is an injector for a J52 but that probably won't be until I get the lathe back together.
     
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    Mossy A classic grump Yorkshire man Full Member

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    Hi Rob,

    My first time, but it wont be the last, no more concentric circles and filleting to create a shaped cylindrical body.
    Given all the mods your doing to that lathe, I guess it's second hand and needs beefing up, not that I understand what your doing or why.
    I think I will stick to 3D printing and not go anywhere near lathes.
     
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    Sort of, if I had bought it new it would still require most of the mods to make it more rigid. To be fair they sound much more complicated than they are. Most of it is drilling holes and tapping them. Although I did have my first go at fly cutting last night with was a bit scary to start with but I soon got the hang of it.
     
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    Now a lathe was something I did learn to use at school.. I was one of the few in the early 1990’s to be lucky to still be trained on one.. although I think the funniest part was when we actually took four square blocks of wood which were bolted together and cut in to them to turn them in to wheels. (For a wooden toy train before you ask!!)
     
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