A trial structure build in timber ( a painting canvass )

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  1. Toto

    Toto I'm best ignored Staff Member Founder Administrator

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    With my Timber tracks engine shed looming, i've returned to the " how do I get a decent result with the painting " quandry.

    So for the umpteenth time I am experimenting with finishes. my last effort was done using Colron wood stain but the result was a bit patchy so this time I am going to have a go with acrylic paint applied via a few methods.

    1. airbrushing primer
    2. possible application via sponge ( dot and dab )
    3. tile adhesive grout wash
    4. dry brushing with powders etc & weathering

    1st I needed a victim ......... so ......


    I chose this .... a Timber Tracks factory building.

    I chose this as it is the same manufacturer as my engine shed so the timber type, thickness and finish is the same as my intended engine shed build and all application methods, if successful here, should apply equally to the engine shed.

    so ..... time to set about the build .....


    not a lot of pieces so thats good. no prolonged build time before the main event which is the painting / finish.


    the adhesive of choice .....


    glue applicator .... erm ..... brush .....


    a selection of appropriate clamps to help hold it all together whilst building ......


    and we are off ..... the main frontage and two side walls .....


    some strengtheners etc .....


    the lean too section of the building ..... complete with some more small strengtheners ....


    a view of the frontage.

    Now .....leave it to dry.

    I chose not to join the two main elements at this stage. I'll paint both elements whilst separated and glue when dry.

    the roof, main front doors and windows shall all be painted / finished before glued into position.

    More on this tomorrow night.

    toto
     
  2. York Paul

    York Paul Staff Member Moderator

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    Are these kits made from laser cut ply ?
     
  3. Toto

    Toto I'm best ignored Staff Member Founder Administrator

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    Laser cut MDF Yorkie I think.

    Toto
     
  4. Rob Pulham

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    They look like laser cut MDF to me Paul.
     
  5. Walkingthedog

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    Most laser cut buildings use MDF. I love it.
     
  6. Toto

    Toto I'm best ignored Staff Member Founder Administrator

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    MDF doesn't like moisture but I hope airbrushing it will keep that to a minimum.

    I will be using Vallejo primer to kick it off.

    Toto
     
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  7. York Paul

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    That's what I thought Rob and reason I asked is it may be down to what medium is used to prime the surface beforehand
     
  8. York Paul

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    Yes that was my concern... any good spray primer of suitable colouring will work and Vallejo paint and primer has a resin base ... so that will work good. I did the MDF laser cut tunnel portals with a black spray primer then worked over with acrylic colour in much the same way as when I made that bridge over the river diorama.
     
  9. Toto

    Toto I'm best ignored Staff Member Founder Administrator

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    Hi Yorkie,

    I was planning on using Vallejo water base acrylic primer. I have other non water based aerosol paints if they are called for but wont be as controllable as the air brush delivery.

    Toto
     
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    Yes MDF laser cut models make for very good results.:thumbs:
     
  11. Toto

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    Hi Yorkie ..... yes, maybe resin based .... I said water based .... could be talking bollicks there. Apologies.

    Toto
     
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    Toto I'm best ignored Staff Member Founder Administrator

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    This is just a test piece. If I screw it up .... no big shakes.

    The engine shed and the Tetbury goods shed were too expensive and certainly not practice pieces. :avatar:

    Cheers

    Toto
     
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    sure Toto ... you have a plan but if you asked me I'd suggest a spray can primer with a light covering... something a tad more than just a quick dusting over... the water base primer in light coats should be ok as long as moisture build up is regulated...I sure it will be a nice finish when you have done it
     
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    York Paul Staff Member Moderator

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    no need to apologies... I love Vallejo paint ... Gary put me on to it and it works for me ... see the Leek station buildings. I know they have a resin ingredient which sticks like the old proverbial on Plasticard so MDF will have an even better durable result.
     
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    Yes the engine shed kit is probably about as rare as hens teeth nowadays...its a cracking model I must say... have you instructed Dundee to have a tow hitch fitted to the back of his estate yet ? :avatar:
     
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    Toto I'm best ignored Staff Member Founder Administrator

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    Good to hear. I also gave Vallejo Matt and satin varnishes which can be used for building up several layers of various finishes .... or at least in theory. All deliverable in fine coats via the air brush.

    One thing I had thought about was experimenting with Vallejo clear base paint and using the pigments I have to create colours. Dont know how that would work ?
    Toto
     
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    :avatar: yes .... he can test the suspension of his new camper van out ...... once he gets the platform 1 stickers adorned on it. I'm sure he wont mind. :avatar:
     
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    I have to admit I haven't used the clear base yet... I mix small quantities together from the bottles but only in small quantities as the medium soon dries...mainly applied with a near dry brush. The clear base would work and save on the amount of pigment used ... not sure if it becomes diluted in colour tho
     
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    The reason I mention it is I have a shed load of pigment that I bought for mixing into plaster for potential scenic wall moulds and saviours etc. Varioys colours of grey, brick red and browns and also lighter stone colours. They may be useable. .... can do no harm trying. My fear is ..... would they possibly clog up my airbrush if they dont break down properly in the clear mix. :scratchchin:

    I could experiment with one of my chear air brushes rather than risk my Paschhe gun.

    Cheers

    Toto
     
  20. paul_l

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    I'd guess (and that could be way off the mark) that a tint added to clear will be exactly that, a coloured clear coat. Adding tint to a white base would be a different prospect as the white is opaque so providing the tint and white are mixable then it should give a variable tint - mind you so would adding any other compatible paint.

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