To kick off this workbench thread, here's a few of my current builds: An old Rails North Models kit of a NSWGR PFH class power/guards/2nd class car, which suffered "minor damage" under repair Modified from an old Lima MBE 1st class sitting car, one of the first RTR models in Australia, is FE712, one of two MBE class 1st class sitting cars downgraded to 2nd class Another modification from a Lima MBE, 1st class buffet car RBX647, modelled in c.1944 condition after it gained an enlarged buffet area And an interior made for RBX647. The kitchen area and staff compartment will be built from styrene and placed in the top RH corner of the car once I can get some measurements of the partitions from the real RBX647 That's all for tonight
I like to see recycling like this, nothing wasted, and you have the satisfaction of knowing its all your own work , nice job! Pete.
Evan nice work in the conversions Even nicer to see someone making variations on a car Will follow your builds
Modifying old stock like this shows that for a little outlay a bit of imagination thrown together with patience and skill gives you something unique! Cheers Evan more please. Ian
ianvolvo46 wrote: Unfortunately these coaches fetch a fair price these days. I remember 30 odd years ago they were around the $25 - $28.00 (£12.00 - £14.50), a few years ago I had seen them selling for almost three times that much ! The Australian Model Railway Magazine (AMRA) once had many articles on cutting and shutting the Lima 12 wheelers (MBE, MFE & TAM Coaches). I could never cut up my models as they cost me a lot back then, but I did admire those who built bespoke models from 2 coaches ! Great work on the coach Evan. Great to see this type of modelling raise it's head again. Cheers, Gary.
Phew that's a lot of dosh for Lima items, in the UK they have a poor reputation It must be their rarity value over there. Ian
Here's some more shots of the construction of FE712 Sanding off the original letterboards from the Lima MBE. The spacer block to reduce flex in the sides is a weight from a Lima 422 class diesel. AMatchboard panelling filled with modelling putty to replicate the plywood sides that FE712 was fitted with during rebuilding Vertical beading added above the window sills, and one window filled in to correct the extra window on the Lima MBE. For those interested, here is the prototype during a tour in 1968. Photo sourced from the John L. Buckland Collection, National Library of Australia I think one of the drivers of the price factor is that Hornby has re-released the 72'6" cars, unaltered from the original tooling, for AU $70.00 Ian, you should see the "Z19" and "S truck" they tried to pass off to NSW modellers at first
When these Lima models were released, they were a godsend as there was not a lot of RTR coaches on the market, unless you wanted some un-prototypical Triang Hornby look-a-likes, or the other options were some badly moulded kits. These models did lack what we have on our models today in regards to detailing, but they did provide a good base model for super detailing. The same can be said for their NSWGR locos. Here is a pic of the Lima 44 Class (left) and Trainoramas 44 Class (right). Back in the 80's, the Lima model cost me around the $65.00 - $70.00 mark (£33.00 - £36.00). The Trainorama model cost me $150.00 (£77.00) three years ago, brand new ! Cheers, Gary. ps. Apologies for hijacking your thread Evan !
After two Lima carriages and several hours worth of cutting, we have most of a NSWGR "CAM" class sleeping/1st class saloon car. The centre doorway will have to be scratchbuilt using some 3D printed parts as the Lima doors are not the correct pattern Works photo of class leader CAM1834 outside Eveleigh Carriage Workshops as built in 1913
Enough cutting and destruction for a day. Time to move onto the reconstruction. First sections of the body were joined tonight
After 25 hours of cutting, filing, gluing and sometimes cursing, the two main halves of the CAM composite sleeper have been completed except for filler putty, but this needs to wait until both halves are fully cured. In the meantime, I will turn my attention to designing the centre doorway and end doors in CAD, as these are a different pattern to those represented on the Lima 72'6" cars.
That's only the first challenge, Paul. After all the body repairs are done, this car has to be given a varnished finish, to match the prototype
Evan For a teak finish try a base coat of a pale yellow (yellow + white) or pale brown enamel. Then apply antique pine water based wood stain / varnish by brush to give a grain effect, several thin coats should start to give a grain effect. Try on some plasticard to see if it gives the results you want. Paul
I'm going to need a much more red finish more my cars. Unlike the famed LNER coaches, the NSW Government Railways clad their rollingstock in more readily available Australian Red Cedar. The finish when fairly new could almost be compared to Venetian Red paint. Below is one of the few colour photos of varnished cars in NSW. Attached files