It’s to prevent buffer lock now I understand. I use 3 link on my O layout and to prevent buffer lock one end of each wagon has a drawing pin head stuck to the buffer heads making them larger. Don’t really notice them.
I really like your couplings concept but I wince at requiring wires across the buffers, however most of us do not have the space for large enough radius curves to avoid the dreaded buffer lock so there is little choice really How long does it take to form up your couplings, do you have a jig to obtain uniformity. Jim
Yes well there you are you see Jim..?? I guess if we were following prototype we would wince at tension locks as well, but we have become so used to them that we accept them. I would use tension locks if they were consistent, but they are not, and these days they even suffer from droop in some of the NEM fittings. Kadees work well but are not prototypical on British railways. Because our railways are small models with unrealistic radii in the track, we have to compromise. So that`s what I`m doing here, trying to find something that is not too radical or imposing in it`s look, but more importantly works as it`s supposed to. The operation is important to me and that`s what I have been working towards for quite some time now. The wires when blackened present quite a low profile, and in some cases nearly disappear. The coupling is not prototypical but works reliably every time. Coupling wagons is a very positive action whether it be on the straight or on a curve. Uncoupling is by hand of God and may be done one of two ways. You can literally separate the wagons by hand or you can use a custom shunter`s pole. The HOG ( Hand of God ) method is actually prototypical if you think about it. Wagons with 3 links don`t couple or uncouple themselves in real life. I have done some serious testing this afternoon whilst at the same time re-designing the shunter`s pole to deal with the extra magnetic force we now have. What works well is a Credit Card....believe it or not.....so I`m developing a pole based on that... You asked if I use jigs....well yes I do....even a simple jig is a time saver if you have repetitive tasks to complete and of course you get that consistency in your build. The basis of my measurements starts with a 3mm diameter magnet. I use a piece of 3mm x 10mm flat bar shaped and drilled at one end to take a horizontal pin to form the actual coupling. The wire is wrapped over the top edge of the bar and then down around the pin on each side of the bar. I have two pieces of 3mm thick flat steel bar that I use to create a flat spot in the middle of the magnets axle so that the magnets can be glued effectively. I use Ultra Violet glue to glue the magnets. A pair of wire bending pliers to form the wire connection to the buffer beam. The connection is Super glued to the wagon A piece of 3mm thick plastic bar with a magnet inserted at one end. This can be held in the vice and used to hold coupling magnets while they are glued. One coupling can be made in about 5 minutes.....maybe less....haven`t actually timed it properly. Wire is straightened by putting one end in the vice, the other end in the drill, pull wire firmly and turn on the drill for perfect straight wire. This method was passed on to me by Keith M from this forum. Of course I have an assortment of pliers and snips, files tools etc. collected over a lifetime......so I can work around most things. Gormo
I have too many wagons with NEM pockets, the problem with them is there is so many parts, so many degrees of freedom, poor tolerances and even different heights of them, notably a couple of Heljan Tangos which wouldn't couple to Bachmann stock until fitted with couplings that were stepped, or was it the otherway round, sometime ago, anyway like any adjustable tool e.g. a wrench, it is still not as strong as a fixed sized spanner. But they both have the plus points. The adjustable is very good at rounding hex heads My personal favourite coupling is the large chunky Dublo Delrin coupling, yep, unrealistic, bulky but so easy to couple and HOG uncouple and stay coupled, many a NEM socketed original in e.g. a Bachmann wagon is too stiff and pushes the light low friction wagons away unless you bump them together, or the hooks end up littering the ballast. To uncouple the Dublo/Wrenn/Trix wagons a simple wire triangle on the end of shunters pole inserted vertically and twisted easily uncouples them, I don't use track based decouplers, as I want to uncouple anywhere in my marshalling or works yards. I also have a large number of Dublo and British Trix wagons , and many converter wagons (many Wrenn & BT have dual coupling mounts) to suit different types of trains too, so marshalling a train requires care to match them all up. They can all hang together well enough for shunting though. Have you noticed how pre NEM tension locks from different manufacturers can be troublesome too, your'e certainly better off without them. Jim
G`day Folks, I`ve been busy over the last couple of days, mainly testing my new version of magnetic couplings, but also doing some repairs as well. A small section of track failed whilst I was trying to cut an insulated break, so I decided to replace it with a longer section rather than trying to replace a very short section The chisel was handy for removing the old sleepers A little bit of packing was required. The track was fitted into place by the usual method of sliding the rail joiners all the way back and then forward. And then sleepers, with chairs removed, were slid under the rail to fill the gaps. It just requires ballast now. Today I started working on my favorite shunter, a Hornby LMS Jinty. The poor old shunter has been the test dummy for all my versions of couplings over a few years now, but it is a good runner and it was time to fit it with the latest version The first problem that became rather obvious was that the buffer height is quite high on this model, high enough to ride over the buffers on most of my wagons. The solution, which works, was to replace the original buffers with some larger ones. These had to be made. I used a small flat head nail which had a small brass sheet disc applied to it. The disks were made using a standard home paper hole punch. The disks were centered on the nail heads and fixed with Ultra Violet glue from the back. The profile on the front of the buffer head was created with the Ultra Violet glue as well. The buffer shafts were trimmed to length and the buffers were painted Flat Black and then fitted to the loco. The larger diameter doesn`t really look out of place and they work as intended. The new couplings were fitted and tested and a flat section of staple was glued just above the buffer beam. When the coupling is lifted up, it is attracted to the staple. With coupling secured in this position, wagons can be loose shunted The other development is a shunter`s pole. Made from a Bamboo skewer, a window leveling wedge and a piece of thin vinyl similar to a credit card. The " V " in the vinyl self locates over the top of the couplings and separates them with a gentle tap downwards. The thickness of the window wedge assists in keeping the magnets separated. When the shunter`s pole is tapped downwards, the bottom edges come to rest on top of the rails. So that`s where we are at the moment and I`m confident in moving forward with the couplings. Gormo
Nice work Gormo. That photo of the 3F Jinty and the wagon, plus the photo of the two wagons rolling throw the tight radius (prior to additional wire) clearly shows why buffer lock is an issue, it's to do with the size of the buffers on various pieces of rolling stock. I bet if all the manufacturers of British 4mm had adopted a standard buffer head (and coupler...), then buffer lock would be greatly reduced. I have run Kadees on all of my British stock one standard across the fleet and no issues. The only issue is the 'slop' in the non conforming NEM coupler boxes... , although this can be cured with shims of styrene. Cheers, Gary.
Yes I use Kadees on my UK 00 outline stock with no problems & I have had some people say "they don't use knuckle couplers in the UK ", so I reply "nor do they use tension locks" - that tends to shut them up. Like Gary, some slop in NEM pockets can be easily rectified.
Yes very true Gary, There appears to be no standard set by the UK manufacturers, whereas the Yanks I believe have got all that sorted.? You mention standard buffer sizes would be a big help, which is true, but only a help also if the buffers are set at the correct height. That Jinty I have just converted has buffers sitting way above all my new rolling stock, however matches up with some of the older Hornby stock. I have not actually measured the buffer heights yet to check them, but from memory I think It`s supposed to be 3 foot 6 from the top of the rail to the center of the buffer face........someone correct me if I`m wrong there..??? So that would equate to 14mm in 4mm scale. The buffer faces can vary from 12 to 15 inches, so there is a bit of wiggle room there. I think most UK models tend towards the smaller, size which would be 4mm in 4mm scale.....some may even be under scale.....not sure there have not checked. At the end of the day, the modeller who models UK stock, and wishes to have a shunting layout, has some serious conversions to do whether it be changing couplings alone or indeed taking it further. To me the only viable solution for these people is to change over to Kadees, as nothing else offers such a simple effective solution. Gormo
Good one Ron.... Same applies to hand of God operations. People want automatic coupling and uncoupling and frown upon those of us who choose to use a shunter`s pole because it does not look good.... I have yet to see a real life 3 link or screw coupling that can couple and uncouple itself without human intervention. Hand of God is reliable.....it`s prototypical....requires no uncoupling ramps or magnets set into track....and you can uncouple wherever you choose. I stand converted and rest my case your worship.... Gormo
Buffers aren’t a standard size on the real railway that is why I'm not too bothered about having larger heads at one end of each wagon.
In the US, they have standards which are set by the NMRA, this includes wheels, coupler heights, power, DCC and more. Considering how many more manufacturers there are and supply the US, you would think they would have it harder compared to the few manufacturers of UK OO outline. Having said that, it has really only been the last 10 years or so where the UK models have become much more correct in size/proportion and detail compared to the prototype. Not only that, how long has it taken some of these manufacturers to update their tooling ? If they keep producing the same chassis that has been around for 40+ years, you will end up with a notable difference with the more modern pieces of rolling stock. Standards will make a world of difference. The Europeans can do, so why can't the British manufacturers ? I think the answer to that is the 4mm/OO scale that was chosen... Who else produces 4mm/OO models ? As for Kadees Gormo, it would cost you a fortune to change all your locomotives and rolling stock over to Kadees and I will tell you, there is a lot of work to do for converting some locomotives ! Cheers, Gary.
I am sure I have seen forms of knuckle couplers between coaches in the UK, that is, dual fitted, screw link and knuckle Shouldn't need to shim accurately made NEMs, but then obviously they are not, I have had to shim a few too! On others the screw comes loose and the whole assembly falls off, too many parts, assembled without care. Jim
Well Gary that sums it up, unfortunately, but one has to remain aware that these were toys, which have become expensive toys, however detailed they are, and however we wish to run them, this (UK) captive market is now stuck with it. Like many UK modellers changing now is not an option, I even looked at EM and ScaleFour back in the 70's but considered it to be too much work to create too little, when i retired I continued with my vintage 70-80s stock, expanded it and then got seduced by adding contemporary models to my fleet, so I mix all types now. So the UK plods on with 4mm scale and 'narrow gauge' track, hey it's 'Great Britain', ho hum Jim
Anyway fellas, Back to the build......here`s a short video showing the latest shunter`s pole in action. It`s rather large, and the anti hand of God brigade with be having chest pains when they see it, however it`s dimensions create a certain degree of leverage, which makes for a smooth separation of wagons, giving the operator some confidence in their ability to uncouple. Gormo
Just a little distraction here. I thought I would try filming with my phone camera once again, and in doing so, try and find a solution to the staggered effect I was getting with trains moving past the camera. The solution as it turns out is that the software that runs my bog standard camera that comes with the phone is not really up to the job. I have downloaded three other cameras from the Play Store and I`m getting much better results. I have eliminated one and am currently assessing the two I have left to see which performs the best. They both have the ability to lock the focus and exposure, which was not available on the default camera that came with the phone. One of the cameras also has the ability to stabilize the recorded video which has mixed results...... You will notice in the opening sequence that the carriages become blurry as they arrive.......I have worked out how to fix that now but I left the sequence in because I like it. A short video below. Gormo