Great Chesterford Junction Part Two

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  1. jakesdad13

    jakesdad13 Staff Member Moderator

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    Pleasure mate :thumbup:.
    It brought back some not so pleasant memories though, it was like Dantes inferno in there with the noise heat and smell! I had nightmares for days after.

    Cheer's, Pete.
     
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  2. gormo

    gormo Staff Member Administrator

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    Oh no !!!,
    Sorry for bringing those memories back Pete..........:facepalm:
    :cheers::tophat:Gormo
     
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  3. gormo

    gormo Staff Member Administrator

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    G`day Folks,
    Well I have another fixer upper project to undertake.
    This one is more cosmetic than anything , however some mechanical work is required as well.
    I was fortunate enough to have a win on that rather large auction site that we all would have heard of in England, Belgium, Australia and Yugoslavia.
    The item I was chasing was a Lima DMU two car set and it was listed as only fair and in need of a few repairs. The motor was apparently running, At first the bids were very low, but in the end I got the set for 38 dollars Australian, which I feel is a bargain, because I am 100% confident that I can get her running well.
    In good order and running properly I would expect to pay 120 to 140 dollars Australian.
    So this is what I expected to receive.....the two car set in average condtion

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    But this is what I actually received.
    The guy I bought the set from, who I have dealt with before, slipped a note into the parcel to say that he had found a third carriage to suit the set and he forwarded it with the set in case it may be of some use to me. What a champion.....much appreciated...:thumbs::thumbs::thumbs::thumbs::thumbs:


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    I think I actually prefer the two car set up, but it`s nice to have a choice.

    You can see there is cosmetic work to be done.....glue stains by the look of it.

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    Buffer beam damage and buffers missing


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    The most serious issue is the curved retaining piece to hold the motor in place. This will have to be glued back in place and then possibly lined to create a smooth path for the housing to rub against. I`ll know better when I take it all apart, however the motor is running and the car actually runs very well indeed considering the motor is just hanging in there....:scratchchin:


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    It goes without saying that a good clean and service will be done


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    The screw link couplings are OK when the power car is pulling, but not when pushing, so I will create some straight wire couplings between the cars to keep them apart. The original tension locks have been removed. I could possibly fit new tension locks, but as the cars are always just a set , I think I may as well just go down the wire route as it will possibly look better anyway.
    I`ll do progress reports as we move through the repairs.
    :cheers::tophat:Gormo
     
  4. Davoetype

    Davoetype Full Member

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    What a great buy Gormo and I must add that these DMUs are one of my favourite UK models. No doubt you will have much fun in the restoration.

    Cheers

    and happy modelling

    Richard
     
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  5. Davoetype

    Davoetype Full Member

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    Hi Gormo

    Thought you might be interested in the ones I have on Dargan. I have 7 in all and they make a nice single train load.

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    Cheers

    and happy modelling

    Richard
     
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  6. Dr Tony

    Dr Tony Full Member

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    I was watching that and interested in it, if only for my kids' u-drive layout, so I dare say it is going to have a better life now. It was coming up for sale at the time we were going to be away, so I didn't want a parcel left on the front door step for a week, especially as one day we had 105mm of rain (finally :cheers:)
    That seller is a very good seller indeed, I have purchased quite a few things from him, the latest I won on the friday, I took a little while paying for it on monday morning due to lack of internet access, and they appeared on tuesday, the next day! (ok, was Sydney to Sydney delivery), always well packed too.
    Cheers
    Tony
     
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  7. Gary

    Gary Wants more time for modelling.... Staff Member Administrator

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    Nice score Gormo. :thumbs::thumbs::thumbs:

    With the work you have done on other locomotives and rolling stock, I'm sure this will look like it had just rolled out of the 'Pressed Steel Company' factory.

    These were originally formed as a three car set when they entered service. ;)

    Cheers, Gary.
     
  8. gormo

    gormo Staff Member Administrator

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    Yes Richard.....the fun has already started in a clinical sort of way....:scratchchin:
    :cheers::tophat:Gormo
     
  9. gormo

    gormo Staff Member Administrator

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    Ah Yes !!!!!....Richard ,
    They look really good.......I`ve got another one to do which is now on my list of things to do......it will probably be the next Gormo`s Shed.
    I`ve still got to get some of that sealer that Gary put me on to.
    :cheers::tophat:Gormo
     
  10. gormo

    gormo Staff Member Administrator

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    Oh well Tony,
    It`s a good thing we weren`t bidding against each other then.........not to worry....there will be more opportunities in the future.
    :cheers::tophat:Gormo
     
  11. gormo

    gormo Staff Member Administrator

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    Thanks Gary,
    Well I guess it will be a three car set then.......might as well otherwise I`v got a spare coach sitting around.
    I`ll do my best to bring the DMU`s up to scratch......I`ve got a good base to work off.....and they actually run really well, which is a bonus. Just need to clean up the wiring a bit, because it looks like it`s ready to go any old time.
    :cheers::tophat:Gormo
     
  12. gormo

    gormo Staff Member Administrator

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    Right Folks,
    I`ve opened up the power car as that`s the one that will give me the most grief. You can see the motor hanging out and the glue stain on the left


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    Down to the chassis and motor.

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    This is the area that needs to be glued and then patched otherwise the motor will keep dropping out.....only when it`s lifted though.....but there`s potential there for the motor bogie to get stuck in this gap......it has to be repaired.


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    So I glued the plastic piece back in place first, and then I`ve cut a paper strip overlay. The plastic was given a thin coat of Superglue and then the paper was pressed on top of the glue.
    Then a thin coat of glue was put on top of the paper. Once the glue sets, it virtually turns the paper into plastic because it has soaked into it.


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    Then the same process for the bottom shelf


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    Then we turn the chassis upside down and insert a small piece of cereal box card into the gap, again using the same Superglue method.

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    And then a paper overlay on top of that


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    So folks, when this stuff goes off, hopefully it will be like solid plastic.
    More as it happens
    :cheers::tophat:Gormo
     
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  13. jakesdad13

    jakesdad13 Staff Member Moderator

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    Nice win Gormo :thumbs:, regarding the intercar couplings, I have used a product called Keen close coupling system on some of my OO coaching stock. It is a bit of a faff fitting it as there is some cutting and shutting to do to the bogies but nothing that would cause you any problems. As it comes it is designed to leave the coaches permanently coupled, however they have come up with a knuckle coupling that allows the stock to be separated for storage but you do have to buy it separately. That is the system I used and it makes it a doddle to store them.
    The use of paper soaked in superglue as a strengthener is good as I used it on some of my buildings after your tip ages ago! It works a treat!!

    Cheer's, Pete.
     
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  14. Keith M

    Keith M Staff Member Moderator

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    Looks very similar to the Lima Class 117 3 car set that both Tallpaul and myself are currently in the act of refurbishing Gormo. I took the opportunity of removing the Lima 'Pancake motor' as I don't find them very controllable even on DCC, and substituting a Tenshodo motor bogie and full set of wheels/axles from Alan Gibson. Not the cheapest way of doing things I know, and my set was in BR Blue/Grey whereas I want it in SR/BR Green, now part-way through respraying (currently awaiting delivery of more paint to complete), so still "Work-in-progress". Changing the motor bogie also gets rid of the 'Traction tyred' wheels, and If I remember correctly, I paid about £35 for my set, so you did quite well for what you paid, especially with the centre coach as a 'Freebie'!:thumbup:

    Keith.
     
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    paul_l Staff Member Administrator

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    Well done on Pick of the week - looks just the part, looking forward to see if the final upgraded model can make POTW as well

    Paul
     
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    York Paul Staff Member Moderator

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    Congratulations Gormo on making POTW capturing a very nostalgic scene full of character from a time gone by. :tophat::tophat::tophat:
     
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    Thanks Pete,
    I`ve looked up Keen on the internet and Yes that looks like a good system. I had not been aware of the system until you mentioned it
    I`ll have a think about it, because when you mentioned it in the previous post, I started thinking about Kadees as well.??
    The Keen system looks better though, especially when it can draw the coaches together and ease them apart on curves....very clever indeed.!!
    Thanks for the info.......I think I`m talking myself into it......:scratchchin:
    :cheers::tophat:Gormo
     
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    gormo Staff Member Administrator

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    Thanks Paul,
    Well I hope the finished article comes up to scratch.......the bar has just been raised.
    :cheers::tophat:Gormo
     
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    gormo Staff Member Administrator

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    Thanks Paul,
    My original intention was to just show the DMU, so capturing a nostalgic scene from times gone by was a happy accident.
    :cheers::tophat:Gormo
     
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    G`day Keith,
    Sounds like Platform 1 is having a DMU festival at the moment.....:avatar:
    Your build should give you a quite sophisticated model, which sounds really nice....:thumbs:
    My build will be a much simpler proposition, just hoping to get it back looking something like the original model and running reliably.
    I should call this "Project Lazarus".....:avatar:
    :cheers::tophat:Gormo
     

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