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  1. ed

    ed Full Member

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    gormo Staff Member Administrator

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    I reckon they`d probably run on 3 Ed.

    No harm in giving it a try.????:scratchchin:

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  3. Toto

    Toto I'm best ignored Staff Member Founder Administrator

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    Hi Ed,

    The back scenes do their magic well in creating a nice sense if depth to the scene.

    Top job :thumbs:

    Toto
     
  4. ed

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    Thanks Toto.

    Does make a difference when you run trains past something resembling scenery, as opposed to tools, jars of ballast, tins of paint and general rubbish :lol:

    Tried the LEDs on 3 volts Gormo and they're a bit dimmer, at all the other voltages ( 4.5, 5, 6, 7.5, 9 and 12) they appear to be the same brightness!

    Must be my eyes :avatar:.

    Can't find the data sheet that came with these LEDs (if there ever was one), but they're very similar to these....

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/20-pcs-PRE-WIRED-5mm-White-LED-LIGHTS-12-VOLT-12V-PREWIRED-LEDs-MA435-/321163018177?hash=item4ac6cebfc1:g:EQEAAMXQjUNR4Mrp

    It's almost certainly a 1K resistor hidden in the heat shrink and if I remember Ohm's law correctly, reducing the voltage should reduce the current flowing through the LED as the resistance (whatever the resistor is, and the LED itself) has remained the same.

    Think I'll try an additional resistor in series and see what happens.

    Ed
     
  5. Toto

    Toto I'm best ignored Staff Member Founder Administrator

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    Hi Ed,

    I think you'll find the additional resistor will work fine.

    You can play around with the values.

    Toto
     
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    paul_l Staff Member Administrator

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    Hi Ed

    A 1K resistor should be fine at 12V, it may dim them a bit too much at 5V, if so try a 470R.

    Paul
     
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    Thanks Paul, pretty sure I've got some of those in stock.

    Too bl@@dy cold yesterday to mess about in the garage adding resistors.

    Ed
     
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    Keep at it Ed.....you`ll win the battle I`m sure.:thumbup:

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    Still slow progress.

    It’s all these small fiddly bits prior to installing the OHLE, that seem to be taking forever.

    Some platform fencing done and painted some benches, yet to be stuck on the platforms with a few figures. Also painted some P & D Marsh BR T shape station lamps, which also need sticking to the platforms.

    The anchor mast for the OHLE is in, but I need to make up a security fence with some aluminium wire grill/mesh I’ve bought to go between the warehouses and the track, before putting up the first bit of catenary.

    Of course, getting side tracked by running various locos with the Bachmann track cleaning car is a bit time consuming, but well, you have to keep the track clean don’t you.

    Class 55 Deltic pulls in to platform 1 with three new (auction site) blue/grey Lima coaches, while an AL6 waits under (the imaginary at present) wires on platform 2 to attach at the other end and take the train back out.

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    New addition to the fleet....

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    I know it’s the wrong period/livery, but at just under £60 and only £2 for delivery I couldn’t resist.

    Along with the Deltic, it’s a bit too long to fit on the Atlas turn table I put in at the end of the fiddle yard to release locos. It’s also getting a bit crowded with only seven available storage sidings.

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    I’ve been having a rethink and more on that later.

    Nearly forgot, I’ve also used the rotary tool I got at Christmas to cut a couple of gaps in the tracks leading to the hinged baseboard section making isolating tracks controlled by micro switches, after my Bachmann J11 took a nose dive on to the concrete garage floor when I left it open :oops::oops::oops:

    Ed
     
  10. Toto

    Toto I'm best ignored Staff Member Founder Administrator

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    Was it terminal for the J11 or did it survive?

    Nice pictures Ed. Taking shape.

    Cheers

    Toto
     
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    One of the rear set of steps broke off Toto, otherwise it seems ok.

    Another little cosmetic job to add to the list :avatar:

    Ed
     
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    Wow Ed !!!!,
    It`s really coming along. I don`t think the backscene was that long last time I looked.
    It`s a good idea to put those micro switches in......it takes just one lapse in concentration and woofo !!!!!...a loco takes the leap of death.
    When you put in the isolating breaks in the rails, allow enough distance between the breaks and the bridge to accommodate a DMU set up, running in the opposite direction.......in other words......any train set up, where the power car may end up at the opposite end of the train for a return journey.
    When running your new locos into the fiddleyard, you could always have a pilot to pull the train clear of the loco, if the loco won`t fit onto the turntable.???
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    Thanks Gormo.

    The isolating sections are long enough for a DMU to stop, so I shouldn't have any more problems. My own fault (obviously), I was testing some pointwork and left the loco chugging off around the loop while doing something else. Lack of concentration/senior moment :lol:

    Only the right hand siding in the above picture has kick back sidings where a loco could sit and take a train back out to release the loco that brought it in. The other sidings don't have much track between them and the main line.

    Current plan/layout as it stands now......................

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    The siding on the left of the plan is the one on the right of the picture, with two kick back siding for spare locos.

    Ed
     
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    G`day Ed,
    Tricky????....:scratchchin:
    What about a run around like below. You may have to re- align the current right hand siding though.??
    Sorry......the mods are a bit rough and ready but you`ll get the drift.

    [​IMG]

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    That helps with loco release Gormo, but I really need to increase the number of sidings.

    If I have two three coach trains (main line?) alternating between platform 1 and the fiddle yard, and two 2 coach trains (local?) doing the same with platform 2, I only need to add a couple of freight trains to more or less fill up the fiddle yard.

    I'm thinking (maybe),change the current fiddle yard by removing the turntable, reducing the available sidings to create a small passing loop.......

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    then create some sort of traverser ...........

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    or sector plate on what is currently the workbench (junk shelf).

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    ( the blue rectangles represent 16mm (approximately) gaps between the tracks to give 46mm track centers, which I would hope would be enough).

    Just thoughts and looking at the options at present.

    Ed
     
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    Hi ed

    I've tried both the traverser and sector plate on Viccy Rd.

    Traverser allows the max number of tracks per inch, but to reach the extremes the traverser may need to extend beyond the baseboard edge (hence the cut out on viccy rd, as at home it goes into the window recess). Control can be via stepper motor and controller if you wish to automate it.

    Sector plate, limited by the curve on the outer tracks to allow alignment. On my test version I did build a turntable into the end of the sector plate (I used pivot for the sector plate as the pivot for the turntable).

    If you want to got down the Traverser route, and wish to automate it let me know, and I'll help as best as I can.

    Paul
     
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    Thanks Paul.

    I know Gormo did a similar tranverser type thing to yours but moves it manually and I think Gary did a sector plate for Kelly Bray ages ago.

    Really a case of what will fit and be the easiest to build.

    Cassettes aren't really an option since it's been confirmed I have osteoarthritis in my back, so lifting heavy trains in the long term is a non-starter.

    Ed
     
  18. Gary

    Gary Wants more time for modelling.... Staff Member Administrator

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    To overcome such movements on a single sector plate, you could have two plates pivoted from the far end, as I have done on Industry Lane. I have used 3mm MDF with the flex track glued down with PVA.

    See here : http://www.platform1mrc.com/view_post.php?post_id=3022

    Cheers, Gary.
     
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    What distance did you use for track centers on that Gary, to avoid stock on adjacent lines fouling?

    Ed
     
  20. gormo

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    G`day Ed,
    Good solutions to your problem with storage.
    I have one other that may be worth considering.?
    Fiddleyard cassettes maybe 3 or 4 roads wide, long enough to hold your longest train, placed in the spot where your 7 road traverser would sit.
    You could probably sit 3 x 3 road cassettes on your work bench at any one time which would leave a gap to place one into when you pull the active one out. A used cassette is simply picked up and reversed to rotate 3 trains at once and if your stock grows significantly, you can have additional cassettes stored somewhere in your garage.
    You don`t need any fancy electrical connections.....possibly just alligator clips to connect to the cassettes and track alignment can be a simple as sliding the cassette across the bench top. Once in place , it should just sit there.
    The road that leads into the cassettes would need to rise on a slight incline to match the height of the base of the cassette......that`s all.
    I would use 18mm ply for the cassettes, and strengthened to avoid warping.
    I think the cassette system would give you a lot of scope.......whata ya reckon mate.???
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