Let there be light!

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  1. Ron

    Ron Full Member

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    Just wired up my first LED streelight (pictures below).
    My question is how do folks prepare the very thin wires for soldering/connecting??I scraped the wire with a scalpel then tinned it quickly but what a job!!
    Anybody got any tips??

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    Thanks
    Ron
     
  2. Toto

    Toto I'm best ignored Staff Member Founder Administrator

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    Hi Ron,

    I would not even have scraped the wires ...... Straight to tinning then fuse together. The scraping would only make it better by raking any potential dirt or oxidisation off the wires but maybe not strictly necessary. Maybe I'm wrong. I don't think to could really do much better though. I stand to be corrected though.

    Pukka job.

    :thumbs:
     
  3. Keith M

    Keith M Staff Member Moderator

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    Many of these "streetlamp" wires are enamelled as a form of insulation as they are so fine to go up inside the posts, and they wouldn't fit up the posts if pvc insulation were used, especially in "00" gauge. They can be a pain to clean enough to tin and manage not to break, I know 'cos I have quite a lot on my layout, and I don't know an easier way unless there is a solvent (a mild acid perhaps?) to dip wire ends in sufficient to remove enough enamel to tin. Sorry I can't offer any better suggestions Ron, anyone else any ideas???
    Keith.
     
  4. paul_l

    paul_l Staff Member Administrator

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    Heat may be an option, may be from a blow torch, then cleaned with an abrasive

    Paul
     
  5. Ron

    Ron Full Member

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    Seems a bit drastic Paul!!:eek:
     
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    SMR CHRIS Staff Member Moderator

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    Ron a iron set at 245' and tin with solder , rosin core works for me, then solder to a section of PC board or conecting harness

    The enamelled coating burns of and the small amount of solder takes its place
    Link to a friends youtube clinic on soldering tiny led's and shows the enamel wire
    https://youtu.be/xhe7voGfzpg
     
  7. Ron

    Ron Full Member

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    Thanks Chris :)
     
  8. paul_l

    paul_l Staff Member Administrator

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    Aw - there was me waiting for a light - sorry flame show :avatar:

    Still reckon my would have worked :thumbs:

    Toto - who needs a hammer to cause mayhem
     
  9. Toto

    Toto I'm best ignored Staff Member Founder Administrator

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    :scratchchin: mmmmm pyromaniac or wot. Time to step up the insurances I think. :avatar:
     
  10. Gary

    Gary Wants more time for modelling.... Staff Member Administrator

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    All the things you learn here ! The lamps that I purchased some time ago had plastic insulation and a very small amount of bare wire protruding.

    Ron, can you post a pic of one of your lamps prior to installation. I'd like to see the difference between the plastic and enameled insulation.

    Cheers, Gary.
    ps, your bus has moved in the pictures above, but those town folk aren't getting too far... :avatar::avatar:
     
  11. Ron

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    I'm sure these have plastic insulation, I'll post a photo later after work Gary:)
     
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    I read something the other week about using a lighter or match to melt the plastic insulation off of the end of small thin wires.

    I think it was regarding decoder wires which are a similar sort of size, but I can't find the link at present.

    Not a great deal different (although maybe slightly less drastic) than Paul's blowtorch :avatar:

    Ed

    PS I haven't tried it :twitch:
     
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    Seems a good idea Ed, will try it when I can!:):tophat:
     
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    It works Ed, used a match and it burnt of the plastic and left the thin wire exposed and ready to solder, result!!:tophat:
     
  15. paul_l

    paul_l Staff Member Administrator

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    Spoil sports the lot of you :avatar:

    For enameled solid copper wire, see hobbycraft, they do coloured enameled wire in various diameters for jewelry making.

    http://www.hobbycraft.co.uk/salix-black-copper-wire-06-mm-10-m/562700-1000

    http://www.hobbycraft.co.uk/coloured-copper-wire-03-mm-black-by-salix/562707-1000

    Would have to check the insulation properties, but could be useful for hand rails, pipes etc. etc.

    Paul
     

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