Mossys 3D Models

Discussion in 'Workshop Benches' started by Mossy, May 19, 2022.

  1. Andy_Sollis

    Andy_Sollis Staff Member Moderator

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    Ah. Westinghouse.. plenty of stuff still uses that, but now part of the vac gear, which is why I didn’t make the connection :facepalm:.

    I’ll have to have another look at my project. See where I need to go.
     
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    paul_l Staff Member Administrator

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    Suppose it would depend on the size of the dog bones as an incentive to pull back :facepalm: :avatar:
     
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  3. chrissy

    chrissy I'm a newbie

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    Anyone needs a paint job or tips I will do my best to help. I paint buildings and parts of my neighbours set.

    Chrissy x
     
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  4. Mossy

    Mossy A classic grump Yorkshire man Full Member

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    Families, Birthdays and other stuff has limited the time available for this build but 'progress to date' if that's the right phrase. Just before uniting the floor/ running gear and the van bodies I took a long look around the bodies and realised I had positioned and glued the upper foot boards in the wrong place. :hammer: After a lot of thought I decided to take radical action and cut them away, if the van bodies were damaged, so be it I would have to start again. 3 steps came away easily the fourth damaged the van body but out with the bodgers friend - filler for a repair job. It might be visible when painted but for now it will do.

    Then on to thinking about getting it fitted in the right place, this has involved soldering a support bar to two of the lower footstep supports so a couple of small jigs were needed one to get the two legs parallel to each other (this has been upgraded to make the job easier next time around) the other is an updated version of a previous cutting jig.

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    I actually only used the second to cut the vertical to the right length, the two horizontals were left over long and cropped after fitting the foot boards. The results:

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    Now I'm back to where I was 4-5 days ago, and need to unite the body and floor/running gear.

    Mossy
     
  5. Mossy

    Mossy A classic grump Yorkshire man Full Member

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    An hour and 15 later:

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    Roof posed but on its wheels various bits of brake gear to do - brake V's and linkages etc and the long support beams which run form one end post to the other.

    Mossy
     
  6. Mossy

    Mossy A classic grump Yorkshire man Full Member

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    Because of family duties, a trip to the Lake District bashing Wainwrights and a variety of other things I haven’t been doing much modelling so by way of an update here goes.

    I spent a couple of days reviewing the two V1/2’s that I had built and decided they were simply not good enough. Basically too many restarts and changes, plus the clasp brake gear just looked lumpy, so I reprinted a full set of body components and modified the brake gear so everything was reduced from 1.5mm sq to 1mm sq.

    I manged to salvage almost all the metal work from the previous build and started again. The strange looking colour of some of the brake parts, is a new resin. I couldn’t get all the required parts printed using the peach resin and had a tiny bit left so I mixed it with standard grey resin. Mr Dundee will be rolling his eyes in horror but I’m a tight fished Yorkie – waste not want not.

    No real changes to the body work, but the clasp brakes have been connected up to the centre spindle and the gear now looks like this:

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    I have just looked again at the brake gear and spotted a classic upside-downitis mistake, shades of Mr Dundee when he was building the K1 Cattle wagon. The operating rod from the lefthand clasp should join up to the bottom link on the centre spindle and vice versa - grrrrrrrrrrr. I'm not sure I dare try correct it now, but it will be corrected when I put the alternate body wagon together.

    All that remains outstanding is to add the dum buffer supports which fit between the end posts. The problem is the compensation units get in the way, so rather than a 4mm think beam I am going to have to print 2mm wide beams and hope when everything is sprayed black it wont be to obvious.

    Mossy

    Such is life
     
  7. Rob Pulham

    Rob Pulham Happily making models Staff Member Administrator Feature Contributor

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    We have all been there with the brakes. It'sall too easy to do when you have it upside down.
     
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  8. Mossy

    Mossy A classic grump Yorkshire man Full Member

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    I have a few bits to print for Rob's copies of the V1/2 brake vans but where to go next?

    A long time go, one of my very early Fusion projects was to draw and print the components for a Bouch Brake van (an NER van but heavily influenced by the S&D) for some strange reason I never tried to assemble it, it's been in a box all this time, so I fished it out and started going through it. 18 months on with a lot more practice with Fusion and actually assembling things what was blindingly obvious was it was completely unbuildable, but didn't need vast changes to correct the problems. Guess what's next on the build list? This is the old beastie:

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    Apart from some cosmetic detail changes to the body, the serious problem is there is no way of getting the brake gear fitted because of the supports fitted to the end beams to handle dumb buffered wagons. All up more as things progress.

    Mossy
     
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  9. Andy_Sollis

    Andy_Sollis Staff Member Moderator

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    Looks good. (Despite the errors you have highlighted) :thumbs:
     
  10. Mossy

    Mossy A classic grump Yorkshire man Full Member

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    Well the "make it buildable" changes proved to be straight forward so I moved on to look at the brake gear, which was pretty chunky. Well it isn't now, one side of the brake gear looks like this:

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    I assume hidden behind the central rectangular structure is a mechanism to push the two short rods apart which will push the brake shoes inwards onto the wheels. I have a shelf queen G1 2-4-0 loco which uses a similar brake mechanism. It's such an awful kit it will be staying a shelf queen! My printed version will be 3 basic structures with a few connecting bits, but since Rob loves assembling and embellishing thing, he will be getting the 26 individual components. :hismiley: Rob.

    Mossy
     
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  11. Rob Pulham

    Rob Pulham Happily making models Staff Member Administrator Feature Contributor

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    I walked right into that one didn't I?:facepalm:
     
  12. Mossy

    Mossy A classic grump Yorkshire man Full Member

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    Having spent most of the last couple of days renovating the Bouch Brake, I stuck the body into Chitu and it doesn't fit the Mono build plate, which is strange cos I printed one about a year ago. Fortunately it hasn't been consigned to the bin yet so when I looked at it, yes it's been chopped off in its prime so to speak and I still haven't fixed the mono x. Casting about for a new project I decided on the early NER brake which I have already drawn, guess what it doesn't fit either. :hammer:

    So it's a bit boring but I am going to switch to the K1 cattle and sort its brake gear, which also fits the G1 good van, almost 2 for the price of one really. Well it doesn't hurt to look on the positive side does it?

    Mossy
     
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  13. Chris Doroszenko

    Chris Doroszenko Lost in the spare room Full Member

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    Loving the progress...and banter...best of luck with the "buildable" form.:avatar:
     
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  14. Mossy

    Mossy A classic grump Yorkshire man Full Member

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    Chris if i didn't have banter I would probably have topped myself by now. But whatever happens I am going to get a grip of this 3d printing process.

    Mossy
     
  15. Chris Doroszenko

    Chris Doroszenko Lost in the spare room Full Member

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    So I figure if I wait long enough someone will top themselves and I can then get a discounted printer...or maybe thats how the evil printers find their victims...lol...starting to think getting someone else to do the printing is a safer option. :confused:
     
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  16. paul_l

    paul_l Staff Member Administrator

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    That's if the chemicals don't get us first. :whatever: :( :facepalm:

    Your K1 is a nice wagon, and I have the prototype version so the production version should be amazing.

    I'm going to use the newer Buffer shanks with the Brass buffer heads.

    Paul
     
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  17. Mossy

    Mossy A classic grump Yorkshire man Full Member

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    Paul

    I have just finished revamping the brake gear so I will be printing a K1 next week along with it's sibling a G1 van.
    Basically pretty much same chassis and brake gear, different body.

    I might even see if I can fix the Mono X, every time I look at it I just think %$^&&^%$£".

    Mossy
     
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    paul_l Staff Member Administrator

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    For my two Mono X's I now have two different profiles MX4K1 and MX4K2 - with a considerable differences. (Mono X 4K)

    On the MX4K1 - the first one - I was getting a build up of artifacts on the FEP with the UV power at 80% (default setting on the new one). I have reduced the UV power to 50% which was the original setting for MX4K1. MX4K2 also has the new checker board etched build plate

    So for a quick comparrison MX4K1 Base layer 40s, Normal layers 3.2s and for MX4K2 Base layer 20s (and it's still difficult to get prints off the build plate), 2.4s for the normal layers.

    Good luck with the fixes.

    Paul
     
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  19. Mossy

    Mossy A classic grump Yorkshire man Full Member

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    A Change of Plans

    Yesterday while tidying up some empty resin boxes, 4 of them rattled, odd! When I opened them what a surprise, all the components for 2 K1 cattle wagons (one floor and one roof were missing) and 2 R1 complete Coke wagons. So the next builds wont be a K1 and its marra a G1, its going to be a K1 and an R1. Strangely I have no recollection of printing any of these wagons but such is life. :facepalm:

    Mossy
     
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    paul_l Staff Member Administrator

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    Pity you didn't find a couple of HR wagons in there as well it would have saved me a job :avatar:

    Paul
     
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