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Discussion in 'Workshop Benches' started by Hamish, Aug 23, 2016.

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  1. Sep 2, 2016 #21
    RALPH

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    Hi Hamish. Nice to see the picturesWhat a great job with the garage,Just one question is the garage separate from the house, or attached ?Given me food for thought.RALPH
     
  2. Sep 2, 2016 #22
    Kimbo

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    HA HA Ralph's going o gauge in his triple garage :avatar::avatar::avatar::avatar:
     
  3. Sep 2, 2016 #23
    RALPH

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    Hi Kim. If I can get my garage as weather proof as Hamish's, then I can have my OO layoutwithout tight corners , then I will be able to run your beaut 9F and my Evening Star, and Sir NigelGresley without them groaning round the tight corners, :scratchchin::scratchchin::scratchchin:
    RALPH
     
  4. Sep 2, 2016 #24
    RALPH

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    Forgot the 'O' gauge below the oo gauge PLANS or Dreams :facepalm:RALPH
     
  5. Sep 3, 2016 #25
    Toto

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    Keep coming with your updates Hamish. We're all green with envy here. Not to mention the Glen Ogle theme. Can't wait.

    You'll be able to do the viaduct credit with the space you have. :thumbs:

    Toto
     
  6. Sep 3, 2016 #26
    Toto

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    Forgot to say, if you ever decide to do a reconnaissance trip to the Glen, give me a shout. Lovely place and there is a wee shop in Killin, about four miles further on called " Shutters " that does fantastic homemade food. Their homemade apple pie is phenomenal. At a cost of course but worth it.

    There are a couple of car parks where you can park up and walk up and join the old railway track and take a daunder over the viaduct. Great place:thumbs:

    Cheers

    Toto
     
  7. Sep 5, 2016 #27
    Hamish

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    Hi Ralph,
    The garage is detached from the House. It is a fairly traditional build of concrete base and breezeblock walls with a corrugated roof.
    I will post some pictures of the construction details later, but yes, for a cold damp, wet Scotland, I now have a very suitable environment.
    Hi Toto, not started on the build yet. I am going to purchase track in October. Still considering the whole Insul/electro frog debate. Anyone recommend which is best for DCC please?
     
  8. Sep 5, 2016 #28
    Kimbo

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    Hi Hamish, I would always recommend going electro frog with a proposed DCC layout. If your buying new point work then most will be DCC friendly which will save you the extra work of converting the points. It's not hard to do , I think Paul or Gary have covered this before, but if not, there are plenty of pictures available and people here who can help you. The main thing to remember is that every piece of track and point work needs to have its own dropper wires and not rely on fish plates to transfer power along the track. When you have a plan of your layout it will be easy to advise you on how to wire it correctly. It will cost a little extra going electro frog but if it's smooth stall free operation your after then this is the only way to go. ( if your running large express locomotives all the time, then it's not so much an issue, but most people run a few smaller 0-6-0, 0-4-0 etc which will benefit from electro frog points )
    Kim :thumbs:
     
  9. Sep 5, 2016 #29
    jakesdad13

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    Definitely electrofrog for reliability of running, there has been lots of information and advice posted on here and no doubt lots more will be coming, using Peco points involve a little more involvement but nothing difficult to achieve and the rewards are great.

    Cheers, Pete.
     
  10. Sep 5, 2016 #30
    Toto

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    I've went electro frogs on anything I've done as it's always the advice I've been given. The mods are reasonably straight forward if you have some basic soldering skills.

    Cheers

    Toto
     
  11. Sep 5, 2016 #31
    paul_l

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    Electro frog get my vote - or hand built as they are definately electrofrog :avatar:.

    Next debate is Code 100 or Code 75. The code 75 looks more realistic (as if track thats 7.5 ish inches too narrow will ever look realistic), however depends on how old your stock is, older stock can run on the chairs on code 75, but run ok on code 100. Some old triang stuff may even struggle on code 100.

    Who said this was going to be easy :avatar:

    Victoria Rd, uses code 100, as the points I needed wern't made in code 75. My next layout will use code 124, oops thats O gauge :giggle:.

    My next 4mm layout will use code 75, but if I'm feeling bold / brave / foolhardy it may even be hand built.

    Paul
     
  12. Sep 6, 2016 #32
    Hamish

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    It seems that electro frog is the clear winner, so that is the way I will go. I can handle a soldering iron, but I don't know if I would make the Olympic squad for soldering.
    I suppose I need to get down to serious track planning now to find out exactly what I need.
    Was going to use my old points for storage sidings where I can. They are glued down to fibreboard with PVA. I was going to try to lift them with a scraper (some fibreboard an all) and then will figure out how to clean them up. Might try one in the dishwasher to see what happens [​IMG]. Wallpaper steam stripper might be something I could try as well.
    If I do plan a trip to Glen ogle I will give you a shout Toto.
     
  13. Sep 6, 2016 #33
    paul_l

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    Hamish

    Try spraying the track with wet water (water + a few drops of washing up liquid), allow to saok and it may loosen the glue enough to help prevent bendin the track work.

    Paul
     
  14. Sep 6, 2016 #34
    Toto

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    Hi Hamish , that would be great. It's a nice run and a good place for the camera. Loads of reference shots to take there.

    Hope you manage to salvage some of your points.

    Are you using track design software ?

    Cheers

    Toto
     
  15. Sep 7, 2016 #35
    Hamish

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    Thanks Paul, I will give the water spray a try.
    Toto, I am not using track planning software yet, but am sending a letter to Santa for an early present. [​IMG]
     
  16. Sep 7, 2016 #36
    Gary

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    Check out Anyrail, easy to use and very versatile. Updates are always on the go as well.

    https://www.anyrail.com/download_en.html

    You can even download the 'free download'. This allows you to have a play with the track design software. I have used this for designing many shunting planks and small layouts, as it gives you an allowance of 50 pieces of track.

    Cheers, Gary.
     
  17. Sep 7, 2016 #37
    ianvolvo46

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    Hi Hamish this has all the hallmarks of being a great thread ... looking forward to your track plan .... pst ... I see some of our members are using 'smoke and mirrors'

    Ian:scratchchin:
     
  18. Sep 7, 2016 #38
    Hamish

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    Thanks Gary and Ian.
    It may take a bit of time, but I will update on progress as things happen. This has been a dream for a long time, which is now turning in to a reality. I have long days due to a lengthy commute, but hope to retire in May of next year, and see this as a long term project to keep me occupied. I am not sure that I have all the modelling skills, but I will make my dream a reality for me. The rivet counters will be welcome as long as they keep their thoughts to themselves.
    Advancing years and Hypermetropia means I would be glad to see a single rivet. On the positive side, If I cant see my flaws, then they don't really matter. [​IMG]
    I suppose that is the great thing, if we can all do our own best and get what we want out of it, it doesn't really matter what anyone else thinks.
    The old smoke and mirrors is OK, it is the other kind of smoke that comes with expensive tears that I am hoping to avoid [​IMG]
    I am enjoying the forum very much though, and have already found loads of good info and advice from the members posts.
    my old Mum told me never to speak to strangers, especially in St Andrews, but Toto collared me, and here I am [​IMG]
     
  19. Sep 7, 2016 #39
    Toto

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    Well we're not strangers now Hamish. So your mum can rest easy.:avatar:

    I am with your school of thought. It's all about what you get out of it and on here, as much as members will try and bring your skills on if it's what you seek, they also appreciate that we are all at different skill levels and are just happy to have someone else involved. .... It's just as much a social thing.

    I get enough out of it just tossing in my two penny's worth, and making new friends. I don't kid myself about the level of my modelling ....... It's all just about trying.

    Cheers

    Toto

    :thumbs::thumbs:
     
  20. Sep 7, 2016 #40
    paul_l

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    For me this is a hobby - although sometimes it may not feel like it - but it's supposed to be fun, and if we can help each other along the way then all well and good. Anything that inspires someone to try something new / different / out of thier comfort zone is a real win, you never know whats inside waiting to break out

    Hamish, you have a large blank canvas, the planning can be as much fun as the actual building.

    This may seem a little strange, but if you haven't built / planned anything before or for a long time, why not have a go at the plank challenge, it doesn't matter if it ever gets completed, in a short period of time, you can try all the skills etc needed to produce a layout in approx 4ft. It will give you something to test your stock on. A large project will take a long time to complete, so having a distraction you can play on - sorry test stock on :avatar: can avoid becomming discourage by the sheer task ahead - ask Toto.

    Paul
     
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