NSW Railways Dairy Co Op Plank Layout

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  1. Noirilae

    Noirilae Full Member

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    As I have and will always be space-starved when it comes to creating a model railway layout I've been designing a plank layout that should keep me out of trouble and maintain my interest. This is to be my first ever layout so of course it will more than likely be rough around the edges but if I take my time and do a lot of trial runs of methods etc. I may come out of this with a quality show worthy layout.

    I've always had an affliction for Milk Tankers and was an avid collector of the Hornby 6 wheel tankers until recently where I sold off about 80% of them to fund my new collection of 'NSW SDS Models BMT Milk Tankers'.


    So having scoured the NSW Railway lines I came across Gerringong Dairy Siding and thus my inspiration for the dairy building will be drawn off that. I have no idea how it will turn out as this will be my first venture into scratch building a building. I've bought most of the textures I need from ScaleScenes, so now it's just a matter of buying the materials and having a go.


    Taking inspiration from Gary's Casula Sidings I was able to design the following layout keeping it under 2 metres in length allowing for a 1m long sector plate. I have no clue how to build a sector plate so again that'll be another new venture.


    Since I have a NSW PC2 Station Building in my unused collection, as well as, acquiring a 'Southern Rail Models TS3 Trackside Goods Shed' based on a typical 'NSW G1b Goods Shed' for $20 on gumtree. I thought I'd throw them on there for added fun.


    If anyone has any tips, advice or suggestions please I'm all ears (or eyes).

    Cheers,
    Noirilae
     
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    Design looks good and you should end up with a very interesting plank layout. Glad you put in a station facility as you can now include a mixed goods which can comprise say an FO passenger plus a small array of four wheelers something like the early morning service from Camden (now long since closed) to Campbelltown. That consisted of an FO a couple of coal loaded S Wagons and of course a couple of Dairy Farmers milk wagons. You could create your own branch line service to ??? What locos do you plan on using? A 30 class tender would look great!

    Cheers

    and happy modelling

    Richard
     
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    Thanks Richard. It'll more than likely be a random dairy town location on the south coast that wasn't rail served. So as you suggested I'll be creating a fictional branch line of my own. The locality is to be pin pointed once I research that aspect. Definitely dreaming of one day where this layout can form part of a larger one!

    There will definitely be a Wombat Models 30 Class with the Bogie Tender running around!

    I have been eagerly awaiting SDS models reruns of the FO Passengers to get my hands on them. As eBay prices are too rich for my blood!
    So far all I have is the RAAF FO Car set, so at some point they'll be doing some recruiting on my fictional branch line. I do have a few HCX carriages and a Casula Hobbies R type set that could be shortened for the branch line aesthetic in the mean time.

    My current collection includes an Auscision 48 Class Diesel, Eureka 50 Class and Auscision Pay Bus that will frequent the plank. I'm looking at acquiring a Eureka Models CPH/CTH to run on the layout as well. There may also be an appearance from an ARM 38 Class that is to be renumbered 3815 and painted up in the as delivered grey livery (unrealistic but like most I love a 38 class).

    Cheers,

    Caleb
     
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  4. Gary

    Gary Wants more time for modelling.... Staff Member Administrator

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    Nice track plan Caleb. Good timing too as Joe (casula Hobbies) has just released a perfect set of wagons for such a layout. These include the GSV (sheep van), CW (cattle van) and the LV (4 wheel louvre van). Not cheap, but the detailing is second to none !

    https://casulahobbies.com.au/collections/pre-order-products (not Pre order as they are in stock).

    As for the sector plate, two ways you can go about this...

    1. Built into the baseboard like this : https://platform1mrc.com/p1mrc/index.php?threads/waspen-street-revisited.2997/#post-49065

    You can read how I made my sector plate starting on page 2 of my Town Street Competition thread : https://platform1mrc.com/p1mrc/index.php?threads/garys-townstreet-competition-thread.804/page-2



    Or a simple MDF sliding plate like this : https://platform1mrc.com/p1mrc/index.php?threads/jay-dubyew-nth-yard.593/page-9#post-27618

    Video of my former sector plate on Kelly Bray. Simple and effective !



    Cheers, Gary.
     
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    Thanks Gary. I'm currently in the process of raising funds from sales of surplus collection to get some of those amazing Dairy Farmer LV's!

    I think at least for the interim i'll apply the KISS (Keep It Simple St...) principle and build a sector plate like the one used on your Kelly Bray layout.

    In the future and as per my initial planning thought I wanted to have a reversing sector plate like the one used in the O scale layout Moonan Flats. But that's more of a future build involving learning the in's and outs of the electronics side so that I don't short my layout.

    I forgot to mention the layout will be DCC so if the reversing sector plate idea ever occurs I assume I'll have to use a frog juicer and a slip ring potentially?...

    Has anyone over in the UK or here heard anything about the ModelTech ProTrack Rail Aligner?
    https://www.modeltech.uk/product-page/ho-protrack-rail-aligner-usa-code-83

    I've thought about using them so I can split my 2m layout in half so i have 2 x 1m sections for ease of transport.

    Cheers,
    Caleb
     
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    I have seen those Modeltech rail aligners previously. I think I put the same link up on our facebook page.

    What I have used in the past are alignment dowels which I sourced from Station Road Baseboards : https://www.stationroadbaseboards.co.uk/cart_dowels.htm These work brilliantly and never go out of alignment, unlike wooden dowels that wear or bolts that wobble about. To keep the boards together, suit case latches can be obtained from the same supplier, I highly recommend both products. :thumbup:

    Dr Tony found a supplier of these in the Northern Beaches area of Sydney. Maybe flick him a PM to find the location of the supplier.

    Something that I'm working on now is a folding layout, similar to what Dr Tony has done with his layout Peate. https://platform1mrc.com/p1mrc/index.php?threads/peate-a-portable-inglenook.5011/
    This makes it easy to transport and store away when not in use. If the layout can be folded in half, it protects the buildings etc, but you will need larger blocks under the hinges.

    Cheers, Gary.
     
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    I printed out the layout today so I could place the buildings to test and adjust. Unfortunately my printer only does A4 so there was 22 pages to arrange.

    My aim was to fit a minimum of 3 BMT milk tankers and 2 MLV/LLV wagons. I reckon I'll be able to safely run 4 BMT milk tankers and the 2 MLV/LLV. Although not exactly prototypical, I can fit a 3 carriage R car passenger set at the station if I extend it by a little.

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    I'm going to give the ModelTech rail aligners a go as they seem pretty idiot proof (so surely I can't mess them up :avatar:). I'm also going to use the alignment dowels as suggested by you Gary and after contacting Dr Tony I got the name of the local supplier (hopefully still operating under the Covid lockdown there). Thanks very much gents for those suggestions.

    At this stage I'm not sure how I'm going to do the scenery at all. All I know is there will be a bridge (or similar to what Gary has done on Casula Sidings) placed at the goods shed end to cover the transition from the sector plate. I'm not sure what I'll do at the Dairy Co Op end.

    Cheers,
    Caleb
     
  8. Gary

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    Looking good, simple track plan and everything fits nicely. What more could you want !

    Can I suggest that you finish off the left hand end with some large trees. If you have visited the old Dairy Farmers depot at Menangle, you will know what I mean. ;)

    Cheers, Gary.
     
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    So several factors have prevented me from moving to something photo worthy to show progress.

    Going back to work has been busier than expected for this time of year. Pair that with University study so I can change careers for the better. There begins to be little time for work on the hobby. But I always find time once a week at minimum.

    couple this with the fact that the peco code 75 medium points I want are out of stock nationally. I’ve hit a wall of you will but the dairy building is in planning and can progress in the mean time I’m just waiting on materials to arrive!
     
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    Not looking good for track.. Even the box shifters in the UK are struggling with demand !

    Hopefully you'll get your materials in to scratch build the dairy co-op. Hopefully the wait for track ain't too long.

    Cheers, Gary.
     
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    I read that Peco had halted production temporarily last year due to covid. I can certainly get the left hand points I want but I can't get the right hand ones!

    On the topic of the dairy co-op building Gary where is best to go to figure out dimensions for heights etc. Do you have a template on what would be considered standard dimensions in HO Gauge?

    I have some ideas with just testing and adjusting until to my un trained eye it looks the right measurements, but other than this, the only other hope I think I have is by counting bricks (but I'm not sure how well this will match up in 1/87)

    Other updates I didn't mention earlier are the soon to be arrival of the Casula Hobbies Dairy Farmers wagons and a Z19 class with Baldwin tender later in the year. I finally called the time of death on my pre order for the Eureka C38 and asked if they'd be willing to let me use my fully paid up order elsewhere instead, thankfully they're always more than willing to accommodate.

    I'll post some more photos when they arrive and of any updates that eventuate in time for those who are picture page turners like myself :avatar:.

    Cheers, Caleb
     
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    Gary Wants more time for modelling.... Staff Member Administrator

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    I mostly work from photographs. Doors are a good gauge of height to measure off, as we know most doors are 7'. Using a scale rule is also beneficial. Use google maps to measure such building, ie Gerringong.

    With the dairy I built, I gauge it off the wagon lengths and heights. For example, the Dairy Farmers/Oak tankers are approximately 45mm in height, add the height of your track, say another 5mm to be on the safe side. Use this height to gauge canopy heights, but also check the heights of other wagons/vans that may use the siding, for example a MLV or MLK. Check heights of your locomotives too for clearances.

    Platform heights are gauged off the baseboard up to the running plate or floor of a van or wagon. This is generally between 18 and 20mm.

    I have found a lot of the times with scratch building that if it looks right and feels right, it is right !

    I have provided you with some guest-imations of Gerringong Dairy...



    Hope this helps.

    Cheers, Gary.
     
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