River Dee Meats ... My first foray into O Gauge

Discussion in 'Planks, Switching and Shelf Layouts' started by Gary, Jun 19, 2018.

  1. jakesdad13

    jakesdad13 Staff Member Moderator

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    One thing about the real railways is that there is always a precedent for everything. On one of the F/B pages I belong, someone posted a photo of a real GWR Pannier with LNER lettering in the NorthEast of England, in the war time years, so yours could quite legitimately run with what ever you want mate and no-one can say different!

    Cheer's, Pete.
     
  2. Gary

    Gary Wants more time for modelling.... Staff Member Administrator

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    Well I never thought that putting a couple of plastic kits together could be so frustrating...

    The brake rigging on the SR Cattle van is not exactly for the faint hearted. Commitment and quite a few breaks in between is required !

    I'm halfway through the brake rigging and boy, what a real PITA it is to do ! If anyone knows an easier way than what the instructions say, please let me know !


    Almost one down, four more to go..., no hang on, that's 6 1/2 kits to go... :facepalm:

    Cheers, Gary.
     
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    Gary Wants more time for modelling.... Staff Member Administrator

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    Oh, guess who didn't read the instructions carefully enough and placed the chassis rails upside down...? Then he noticed his mistake before the glue went off... :whatever:

    See pic in above post...

    Cheers, Gary.
     
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    Gary Wants more time for modelling.... Staff Member Administrator

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    Managed to work out the brake rigging. I have another completed kit I purchased some time back and that alone gave me an insight to the way the brake rigging assembles.


    Not all parts came out of the mould cleanly... This part, the hand brake guide was just a tad short on plastic and I ended up trimming down a piece of styrene to the width of the hand brake guide. This was glued on and the top and bottom edges rounded off.


    This won't be seen once painted over !

    Cheers, Gary.
     
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    Kimbo Staff Member Moderator

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    Just wait till you build a 6 wheeled SR brake van>...........:facepalm:



    I’ve not done a cattle wagon, but I did the SR van a couple of weeks ago, if it helps..





    Kim
     
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    Thanks Kimbo.

    Your SR van undercarriage is identical in every way to the SR cattle van. As you are probably quite aware, the instructions can be a little, well, incomprehensible... I wish there was a little more to the instructions rather than an exploded view and some dodgy looking graphics.
    Now I have completed one kit, the next should be easier. I did say 'should', didn't I ?? :avatar::avatar:

    Cheers, Gary.
     
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  7. Kimbo

    Kimbo Staff Member Moderator

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    Gary If you think those instructions are bad you should try building a Q1 from Ace, using their hand drawn directions :faint:

    Those hand brake guides are a pain in the @#@ sometimes. I’ve resorted to making them out of a thin strip of brass when I’ve damaged them beyond repair.
    Just remembers black paint hides a multitude of minor mishaps :giggle:

    Kim
     
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  8. Rob Pulham

    Rob Pulham Happily making models Staff Member Administrator Feature Contributor

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    The other thing to remember when assembling brake gear is that you generally have the wagon upside down whereas the instructions usually try to portray the wagon the right way up so you need to allow for that.
     
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    Yes, you are right Rob about the upside down plans, lucky for me I could understand them. I did notice that they had labelled certain parts incorrectly... So I just did what I thought was correct and proceeded.
    Now I have this unusual looking wagon with brake gear on the roof and buffers in the door ways... Don't ask where the wheels are... :avatar::avatar::avatar:

    On a slightly different note, a few models greeted me at the doorstep when I arrived home after work... Good old Christine Hatton has been sending me parcels...

    Here they are...

    Heljan 35t tank wagon. This will eventually be repainted for use on the abattoir branch.


    Dapol Pannier in BR Black...


    Honestly, I thought I would never buy one of those GWR engines.., but one did run on the Wrexham to New Brighton route ! So in reality, one ventured into LMS land, passing over old LNER territory.


    Beautiful cab details...


    Dapol 3F Jinty LMS livery...


    The Jinty is one of my all time favourite engines, so having two on my rooster is allowable !


    Again, great cab details...


    Nice...!

    Cheers, Gary.
     
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    Nice purchases Gary :thumbs: I didn’t know you could buy single tanker wagons :avatar::avatar::avatar::avatar:
     
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    My layout ain't as large as yours ! :avatar::avatar:

    Besides, there is only so much liquid waste/fats/oils that come out of an abattoir !

    Cheers, Gary.
     
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    Toto I'm best ignored Staff Member Founder Administrator

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    Very nice,

    Now , did I hear the word " weathering " :avatar:
     
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    I did today at Ralph’s, :facepalm: when he told me he had 10 tankers on their way over from Hattons to go with my 10.....that’s a lot of painting to be done.
     
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    Spent the afternoon getting the other two half completed kits on the move again. The GWR Open goods wagon is just about complete, albeit the buffers, couplers and the tarpaulin rail. The sketched out diagram for the tarpaulin rail is a little confusing so it may just end up as an open wagon and not tarped over...

    The other wagon is the SR meat van. I have worked on the chassis, W irons, axles and half the brake rigging. I can say the second time round on a SR wagon is a lot easier. :thumbup:

    The two wagons under carriage comparison. The SR brake rigging is far more complicated than that of the GWR...


    Next pic you can see the difference between the completed brake rigging (left) and semi completed (middle) and simple GWR (right).


    I'll get these finished tomorrow...

    In the mean time I took delivery of the L-Cut Creative laser cut panels. What I didn't realise was that the larger brick sheets are thinner than the individual panels... This put a stop to what I had planned. So I ended up ordering the extra few panels and maybe this weekend, I can start on constructing the abattoir. I was hoping to get this done before the O gauge Competition closes, but it don't look like I'll get that done. No problem as I won't rush it as rushing tends to breed mistakes. ;)

    Cheers, Gary.
     
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    jakesdad13 Staff Member Moderator

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    I think I have one of those GWR wagons in my stash complete with tarp rail. I will take a look and see if it has the rail and take a pic of it.

    Cheer's, Pete.
     
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    jakesdad13 Staff Member Moderator

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    Here we go.

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    Hope these are of use mate. If you need any more pics just let me know.

    Pete.
     
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    Thanks Pete.

    Looking on the diagram supplied, it seemed that the trapezoid shaped piece above the arched roll bar sat lower down. Now I know it doesn't, I can get on with the job. Thanks again. :tophat:

    Cheers, Gary.
     
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    With all my deliveries from L-Cut having arrived, I could start on the abattoir...

    In another thread, I came up with this design, utilising all L-Cut products.


    But I decide to change the design to this...


    So, a temporary fit on the baseboard to see how it fits in and it does, nicely. It will not have to span two baseboards as the other design did.



    Just gluing individual pieces together will not give it much support as it is a low relief model, to a certain extent. Since I have plenty of 3mm foam core, it was measured up to size.


    The window and door apertures were drawn in using the L-Cut pieces as a templet and apertures cut out.


    This was followed by measuring the platform , cutting the appropriate lengths of stretcher bond L-Cut and a backing sheet of foam core. Spacers were also cut to span the platform distance and also to keep the face square. A trim of stretcher bond header was cut and glued to the top of the platform face.


    These two elements were then positioned and glued together.


    Next up will be adding the kick backed section of the building and adding that to the main structure. The end side walls will then be measured for depth and the fitted with foam core.

    That's it for now, more through the week as time permits.

    Cheers, Gary.
     
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    A little more was completed on the abattoir today. End walls, roof apex brick work and brick butrusses were added to the main structure. Also some Evergreen styrene (sidewalk slabs) was cut and positioned (temporarily) on the platform.


    I did notice during this part of the build that there was a slight bend in the length of the building. To overcome this, I screwed some aluminimum angle to the baseboard, where it will not be seen, behind the front wall and in between the platform and base of front wall.


    When the structure is insitu, this is how it holds it straight. As can be seen, the building does bridge the two baseboards. This is something that I wanted to avoid, but due to wagons interfering with the loop/points, the building had to move a few inches left, onto the next baseboard.


    The whole structure was painted grey, working the paint into the mortar recesses.


    Am overall view of the building, showing the spacing between the doors. L-Cut have done a great job when designing these panels as the space between the doorway centre is a match for two coupled wagons.


    This pic shows why I had to push the building to the left a few inches, clearances are important !


    The platform canopy was constructed from card, styrene shapes (I beam, L angle etc) and a few lengths of L-Cut valance.


    On temporary pic of the platform canopy.


    I'll work on the canopy and roof next then move onto the windows, doors and stairs. Then give the whole building a dry brush of a variety of red brick/brown brick colours.

    Cheers, Gary.
     
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    Nice modelling Gary. I have just caught up with your layout progress and it’s inspiring for some like me new to O gauge railways.
     

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