Painting and Weathering trials

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  1. Rob Pulham

    Rob Pulham Happily making models Staff Member Administrator Feature Contributor

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    One of Mossy's printed wagons didn't survive the post unscathed so I agreed that I would strip off all the reusable bits and send them back and then use the scrap body for testing painting and weathering. I have been watching a few armour modelling videos and I wanted to see how some of the techniques translated across to our kind of modelling

    As a side note I have also bought a Tamiya 1:35th scale Panther Tank kit too Ooops!

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    I have only shown one side/end because I made a right mess of the other side and end by adding too much crackle medium. So I need to apply some methylated spirit to strip the paint off before finishing the other side in a similar manner to this one. These are still work in progress so they may change a bit before I am completely satisfied. If I make any significant changes I will update the thread.
     
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    Rob Pulham Happily making models Staff Member Administrator Feature Contributor

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    I forgot to add that during the process of stripping down the wheels and compensation units off the scrap body I one of them was well stuck and it ended up breaking a hole in the floor which is plain on the print so I added some coffee stirrers to create floor detail.
     
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    Very effective Rob
     
  4. Mossy

    Mossy A classic grump Yorkshire man Full Member

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    So that's what you were up to, it looks pretty effective. I have posted you a couple more duff bodies they should be with you sometime later this week.
    Neither has a floor so you will need to stock up on coffee stirrers. Play nice and lets see some more results in time.
     
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    Looks a lot better than some of my attempts of weathering.
     
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    jakesdad13 Staff Member Moderator

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    I would be well happy with the finish if it were mine Rob :tophat:

    Pete.
     
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    In between doing other bits and pieces I am still playing around with the weathering. Using some techniques that I have ipicked up from watching armour modelling videos I have been trying my hand at rust effects.

    They are all whitemetal castings from my spares box.

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    I wasn't so wild about these once I saw the photos so I had another go at them this evening.

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    Despite the hairs which are not visible on the actual items I am happier with them now.
     
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    Upon reflection I still wasn't happy with the 'box' so I had another go at it this morning.

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    I have also been working on a few more bits of 'scrap' from spare whitemetal castings

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    I am not really sure what this part was originally...

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    Your final attempt looks much better.
     
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    Rob Pulham Happily making models Staff Member Administrator Feature Contributor

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    I agree Brian, they are are of course significantly enlarged and under intense light for the photos.

    The colours are much more muted in reality. I have another couple of Mossy's reject wagon bodies on the go and my plan is to have one of them with a pile of decaying scrap in one end. I haven't started on weathering them yet so I will up date the thread with them when I get to them.
     
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    My attempts at rust have never really worked. Think I’ll have a look on yoootooob like you.
     
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    One of the problems when taking photos is they tend to make any defects look much worse than they are. With weathering, personally I think less is more, some weathered models I've seen look like they should be on the scrap line, especially some locos that I have seen on layouts.

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    Well I can't say too much Pete, having weathered the J6 to within an inch of it's life.

    That said it did reflect the photo that I was given to work from.
    Hi Brian,

    Look for a guy called 'Nightshift' he has a lot of good techniques and he does explain them well. Sadly some of the products that he uses are not available in the UK (that I have found at any rate) but I just used the techniques with the paints that I have.
     
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    Thanks Rob.
     
  15. paul_l

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    I don't know if looking good is the right expression here. :avatar:

    I find it quite amusing at times, as railway modellers we tend lo look in awe at the results the Military modellers achieve, and likewise, you hear the Military modellers wondering how on earth we manage to model such large scenes when they struggle to make small dioramas - especially when they consider the cost of the items they purchase and the quantities we have to use - mustn't be many Yorkshiremen or Scotsmen doing military modelling then. :whatever::giggle:

    Paul
     
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  16. Gary

    Gary Wants more time for modelling.... Staff Member Administrator

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    That's because military modellers work on larger models on small baseboards (dioramas) where multiple weathering details lend themselves to the eye. Whereas us railway modellers have a bigger attraction to the scenery and what is in the scenery. The smaller the model, the harder to replicate exacting weathering processes.

    I must admit that I found it easier to weather an O gauge wagon or two compared to OO and HO stock !


    Cheers, Gary.
     
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    A bit more playing with rusting things out. This time it's a pipe.

    I started with a short length of evergreen tube. I attacked it with me dremel and a diamond ball burr to thin the ends to make them look corroded and then I ground a hole from both inside and out again to simulate corrosion. Then a coat of primer filled with talc and various Vallejo browns and rusty colours including Burnt Umber, Smoke, Charred Brown, Rust, Saddle Brown, Leather brown. all applied as washes also washes of German orange and finally sponge stippling with Dark Prusion Blue to simulate a bit of residual original colour.

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