Talerddig - micro layout

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  1. Matt

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    Hi all,

    I picked this old Lima CCT secondhand for a bargain price the other day and with a bit of work it'll make a nice addition to my small parcels fleet.

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    The first thing be I'll tackling is the awful wheels and misaligned brakes - I'll hopefully use something from the spares box for this. I've also bought some SE Finescale flush glazing - I'd have preferred the Lazerglaze set but couldn't find anywhere that had it in stock. Until I try the SE stuff I won't know if I'll use it as is, or use it to cut my own glazing.

    Finally I'll repaint and weather it. Progress will be slow as the baby is due anytime now but it'll be a nice project to work on!

    Matt
     
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    Nice pick up, wrong colour ! :avatar:

    With most Lima models, the axles boxes will probably need reaming out to fit either new Bachmann or Hornby axles. :thumbup:

    Cheers, Gary.
     
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    Some progress to date with the CCT. My first attempt at reaming the axle boxes was an unmitigated disaster - probably due to lack of sleep!

    My solution is very much a bodge - time will tell if it'll be robust enough. Brake shoes are leftovers from some Parkside kits with a bit of plastic rod thrown in - excess is still to be trimmed here.

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    More progress soon.

    Matt
     
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    That does look like a great little tool Chris, might be worth investing in one.

    In my blurry eyed-ness I drilled right through one of the Lima axle boxes and then also cracked part of the plastic. What I've done is to remove the Lima parts and then graft some W Irons onto the existing solebars. While not 100% correct they're good enough for me, and certainly good enough at a distance! I'm not sure how strong they'll turn out to be but the plus point is the ride height is more accurate now.
     
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    You have made a great looking start, wagons are great too. Lots of help on here for electrics, just ask, did you buy momentary (spring return to centre) toggle switches?
    I like the lanarkshire buffers too, even put working lamps on mine, they come up as the first scrolling picture on my website!
     
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    I did buy return to centre switches - I forgot to mention that!

    I mentioned in my last post the ride height was more suitable after replacing the Lima axle boxes. Hopefully this picture shows what I mean. Granted it's about 1mm out but I can live with that!

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    Matt
     
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    Nice conversion on the axle boxes/W irons. Not the easiest plastic to glue together either. Did you use super glue or something else ??

    Cheers, Gary.
     
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    Thanks Gary - used a combination of superglue for the initial grab then flooded the joints with liquid cement.

    So far so good - I'm still not sure of longevity but for a small layout like mine (or like mine will be when I build it!) it should be ok!

    Matt
     
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    Quick sidestep while I wait for supplies of handrail for the CCT.

    Anyone like a bargain?

    I know I do! I'm a big fan of 16t mineral wagons and have built a couple. Now I really like the Parkside kit but they range anything from £8.50 upwards depending on where you shop.

    While browsing online recently I came across unpainted 16t mineral bodies by Dapol costing the princely sum of £1.50 each. This got me wondering if there was a cheaper way to get some 16tonners.

    I happened to have the underframe sprues from a Parkside mineral that I'd kept following an unfortunate accident several years ago (spilt glue + plastic body parts = disaster). I set about seeing if I could do something by combining these parts.

    First off, the Dapol body is sold as a 10ft chassis and (looking online) the Parkside underframe is 9ft but I'm prepared to take that risk!

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    I've grafted the solebars onto the Dapol body. I had some wheels and bearings "in stock" to use which obviously helped keep costs down too.

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    You'll notice I've had to fashion bufferbeams from plastic sheet and use some spare buffers. A quick comparison photo showing the two versions side by side and I think it looks pretty favourable. The Dapol body is longer but if mixed in with other wagons it may not be so obvious:

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    If I hadn't already had the solebars, I could have bought a chassis kit from Parkside (and in fact I have bought one to do a second). The grand total of the body, underframe and whitemetal buffers comes to around £6.61 (may be more or less depending where you shop obviously). I think it's worth it.

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    Matt
     
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    Quick update: the mineral is finished, just needs painting.

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    It's a bit of a bodge in areas but worth the effort I think.

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    With regards the switches I bought for point operation, they are Gaugemaster GM510's - actually not sure if these are sprung return to centre switches?

    Another electrical question: if I wanted to create an isolating section how would I do this? I assume I'd use isolating rail joiners and bridge the gap somehow with a switch? Would I need isolated fishplates on one or both rails?

    Thanks in advance

    Matt

    **Have I mentioned anywhere that it'll be DC operation?
     
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    The Gaugemaster GM510 switches are momentary contact, which means they will return to centre. You don't need to hold the switch, just a quick flick and you will hear the solenoid click into position.

    As for creating isolate sections, that is simple. You can use one of two types of switches, either momentary push button or a simple on/off toggle, SPST (single pole single throw). Only one rail needs to be isolated if you are running with DC. If you are running DCC, no need to isolate.

    Here is a simple wiring diagram you can follow :

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    Choose either a momentary push button or a SPST toggle switch. I have used the SPST switches on my layouts as they act as a 'safety', as you need to hold the button down until the engine has cleared the isolated section of track and vice versa. If in the future you wish to run DCC, I would recommend the SPST switch as you can turn the switch to on and leave it in that position.

    Cheers, Gary.
     
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    Thank you Gary, that is very helpful. I appreciate you taking the time to post that.

    Would the Gaugemaster GM503 switch be suitable do you think?

    Matt
     
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    I'm a bit late to the lima wheel swop as I've been away but Alan Gibson doe's a straight swop wheels and axle conversion for Lima models. Also, and I have done it, the wheels from Romford axles will fit the Lima axles, a bit of a faff as they are a fairly tight fit and they will need a back to back gauge to set them up, but all modellers should have one in their tool box to check back to backs for smooth running.

    Cheer's, Pete.
     
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    I've been putting off and off actually laying track for a variety of reasons, mainly my hesitation with wiring. I thought it was about time I started mapping things out using lining paper.

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    It's dawning on me how small it is!

    I've also been sorting through my stock and have identified several items that can go to raise some funds.

    Onwards I go!

    Matt
     
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    Morning all,

    I know these are quite boring posts so I apologise in advance. But it helps keep a photographic record for me and keeps the motivation going.

    So here we can see a mock-up of the run round loop - very short! But I will be able to run around a single Mk 1 coach with a Type 2 loco which was always going to be my maximum loco hauled passenger train length anyway.

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    Thanks for looking

    Matt
     
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    Those switches are ok, but if you would like to save a few £'s, check these out :

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/5pcs-2-P...710574?hash=item4b34c2856e:g:SikAAOSwCCVZt69b

    or ten SPST switches :
    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/10pcs-2-...310107?hash=item33d6934e1b:g:K9gAAOSwAypZt69c

    These will do the same job as the Gaugemaster switches, only these are a tad smaller but work much the same. I have used this type of switch many times in the past. :thumbs:

    Now, if you are hesitating on the wiring/soldering, can I recommend that you get yourself an old piece of track or rail and practise soldering first. Gormo has produced an excellent Gormo's Shed with soldering the key subject and is worth a look :

    http://platform1mrc.com/p1mrc/index.php?threads/episode-72-17-soldering-wire-to-rail.1899/

    Cheers, Gary.
     
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    Thanks again Gary,

    I can solder just about! All of my concerns are with the actual wiring - where things go, how to join everything together etc - it's a mystery to me so I'm grateful for your advice.

    My previous layout was two wires from track to controller and manual insulfrog points! Simple to set up but very restrictive!

    Matt
     
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    No worries Matt, you're welcome. :thumbs: If you keep asking the questions, they will be answered !

    Cheers, Gary.
     
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