Weathering

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  1. Ron

    Ron Full Member

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    I have just spent some time weathering a GWR brake van. I did one side quite dirty then I thought I would leave the other side clean because I could run the wagon with either side towards the 'watcher', turn the wagon around (out of sight!) and the next time it appeared it would show the alternative side which could be cleaner or much dirtier. This would equate to doubling my rolling stock if they were all done that way, coaching stock included. (or loco's?)
    Any thoughts on the matter???
    Cheers
    Ron
     
  2. jakesdad13

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    It is something I have thought about Ron, but have two different identities on each vehicle, not actually done it though :scratchchin:.
    Pete.
     
  3. Gary

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    Not so much with weathering, but I have seen different numbers on either side of a locomotive.

    One question, do you weather the ends of the wagon or leave them clean ? Only reason for my question is that it would look quite odd having clean ends and only dirty sides...

    Cheers, Gary.
     
  4. Ron

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    Good question Gary, I think a 50/50 each end to blur in the weathering??I did these two wagons this afternoon, what do you think??

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  5. Toto

    Toto I'm best ignored Staff Member Founder Administrator

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    Hi Ron,
    regardless of the principle ........ I like the weathering. Just a nice amount to take the newness off them.:thumbs: I don't think I'd go for the half and half myself but everyone to their own. If its just for a home run layout ........... maybe.:scratchchin:
    good weathering though.
    cheers
    toto
     
  6. Ron

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    Just for the home layout Tom, not a contender for the competition then? :facepalm:
     
  7. Toto

    Toto I'm best ignored Staff Member Founder Administrator

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    :avatar: unfortunately not this one Ron. there will be others.:thumbs:
     
  8. SMR CHRIS

    SMR CHRIS Staff Member Moderator

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    Nice weathering but your bared from the comp :avatar: unless you resign your commission :facepalm:

    For a layout like yours small station to fiddle yard that you can only see one side of the train at any one time varing each side Seams like a good idea to increase the interest without any extra wagons having to be added to the roster.

    Ron I'm considering painting my next 2 passenger carriages with 2 different colour scheme's both have the same base colour, Tuscan Red but one side will only have buff lining the other will have a Russet band down the middle window section and lining luckly the ends are the base Tuscan only on both scheme's

    The reasoning is at exhibitions with only having a three road rotating sector plate it's like adding a 4th train each time it enters the scene it will have been turned on the sector plate so will present as 2 different cars and as the layout is in a full picture box frame you cannot see the other side of the train from any angle.:thumbs:
     
  9. paul_l

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    The two running numbers works great for rolling stock, and for loco's in DC, but can give issues in DCC if you use the running number for the loco address.

    Nice weathering Ron.

    May be worth giving the wash method a try as well as this will highlight the planking on both clean and dirty versions.

    I will try and post a picture later.

    Paul
     
  10. Ron

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    Good idea Chris :thumbs:
    Did a thin wash on the LMS van Paul but only on the dirty side....?
     
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    Hi Ron

    I have seen the idea of differing sides on some stock I at an auction once, I thought then it was a great idea so go for it.

    Nice bit of weathering on the wagons too making them looked used but not neglected, I might get that far soon, or not at my pace.

    Jim
     
  12. Graeme

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    I saw a video of a train that had "Billboard" boxcars and reefers behind it and both sides of the boxcars were different, as was the loco numbering it was about about 15 years ago before I started to be tempted by the dark side of the hobby. ;) ;)
    The train ran around a figure 8 track and passed the viewer from different directions thus giving the impression that there were 2 different trains running. Both sides were weathered but to different degrees.
    I seem to recall "Model Railroader" had an article about different view on boxcars as well.
     
  13. ddalzell

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    Looks good Ron,

    Years ago one Well know Aussie modeler would paint up passenger Cars with a different color scheme on each side.

    Have also seen this done before on some Australian bulk Coal Trains,
    Only difference was both sides where weathered but had 2 different Operator Logos on each side, They had the train set up so they could run one or the other, saved buying 2 trains worth.

    This would work will if you could work out the ends, Maybe a light Weathering on the corner would be enough.

    sometimes this can have a great affect if pulled off right

    Dave
     
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    I used to do something of the sort with the old Triang-Hornby mark 1 coaches, which had separate side mouldings but shared common roof, underframe and end mouldings. A train of coaches could be green on one side and crimson and cream on the other. The only thing needed to disguise this properly was to paint the end thicknesses of the sides black (or dirty grey/black) to match the ends and prevent the body side colours showing at the ends - also good for disguising the slightly translucent effect that Triang-Hornby's self-coloured plastic sometimes exhibited.

    Most coaches and wagons, once in service for any length of time, would have dirty ends and roofs, no matter how well the sides were cleaned. With that in mind, I'd suggest Ron weather the ends of the wagon, regardless.

    The only other fly in the ointment for using the two-different-sided technique is if the vehicle concerned has numbers on the ends as well. Some pre-grouping GWR wagons I made from kits require numbering on the sides and ends.
     
  15. Ron

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    I won't bother changing numbers but will slightly weather the ends I think :)
     
  16. Gary

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    I like you weathering Ron, especially the brake van, nicely done indeed. :thumbs::thumbs::thumbs:

    I noticed that you hadn't touched the roofs...

    Cheers, Gary.
     
  17. Ron

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    Just a touch Gary, not easy to do half of it!:):)
     
  18. gormo

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    Any roof would have some weathering on it, so I guess a light touch would convince anyone Ron.???

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    Several of my locos have different running numbers on either side - mainly the Black Fives - the pregroupers retain their personal identity. As for rolling stock though, as they are all "handed" because of my using single ended Spratt and Winkle couplings and only one side is ever seen, I don't bother doing anything with the unseen side - :oops: saves lots of time! A similar situation with coaches - most are Comet sides on Airfix bodies and the hidden side tends to be a hacked about Airfix body to get window positions right and a Comet on the visible side. Gives two coaches for the price of one....I just keep quiet about it.......
     
  20. Ron

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    I thought you said you keep quiet about?:facepalm:
     

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