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  1. Jun 23, 2020 #21
    Kimbo

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    Back to the GUV build.....looking at a few models of these on the Internet I rather like the lined version. Now lining is not my favourite job in the world and there are transfers for coaches available which should not be to hard to do as it’s a basic straight line. But tucked away in my “one day I’ll use that” tool draw is a lining pen kit I bought a few years back.



    ‘Basically an ink pen with different sized nibs. So reading the instructions made it sound so easy, apart from getting the right consistency of the paint. So a practice on some shiny plastic


    so to the model, first go, disaster, paint to thin, clean off the model , second go, to much downward pressure as the crimson paint got “scratched” where the nib ran along the body, third go.....well here it is, warts in all...


    basically, place a ruler on the model and lightly run the nib down the ruler in one smooth stroke.....before starting this, stop breathing, stay perfectly still and question why you added the door handles which stop the ruler lying perfectly flat on the model.
    There’s a black line to add to the lower pair which I will try and do when this paint has dried, I’m using enamels by the way. This might be a total disaster but you have to give these things ago.
    I can always re-paint it again
     
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  2. Jun 23, 2020 #22
    ianvolvo46

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    Looks good to me and anyway 3ft rule applies :thumbup:

    Ian vt
     
  3. Jun 23, 2020 #23
    Kimbo

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    Cheers Ian, will make up my mind when the black stripe is done tomorrow
     
  4. Jun 23, 2020 #24
    York Paul

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    You are a braver chap than me Kim, lining a feint paint line is my nightmare... Good job you did and looks hugely impressive.:tophat::tophat::tophat:
     
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  5. Jun 23, 2020 #25
    Keith M

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    I too have an as yet unused lining pen kit Kim, still not plucked up the courage to try it yet though. I've only ever used acrylic paints on my models, so would acrylic still work in the lining pen or would I have to go for enamels???
    Keith.
     
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  6. Jun 23, 2020 #26
    Rob Pulham

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    Hi Keith I have used acrylic through my easiliner pen but you need to be quick so that the paint doesn't dry in the tube.
     
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    Mark4mm

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    Hi Kimbo this lining lark is not for the faint hearted. Looks good to me:thumbup:
     
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  8. Jun 23, 2020 #28
    Rob Pulham

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    Apologies for the thread highjack Kim but this one is for Keith.

    I lined this in acrylics using the easyliner pen.

    It's a Slaters Midland Railway Milk van.

    [​IMG]
     
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  9. Jun 24, 2020 #29
    Kimbo

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    “He who dares” definitely need more practice at this...
     
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    Kimbo

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    Hi Keith , I went for enamel as I hoped it would fair better on the model when handling it.....but now reading and seeing Robs work, it might be worth having a go......I think I need to have a good session with different paints and some scrap to perfect this technique
    Kim
     
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    Kimbo

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    No apologies needed Rob.......just make your second “how to video” a lining one please
    Again another beauty, so having looked at what can be achieved I’ve stripped the model again ready for a second re-paint, but no lining until I’ve had a lot more practice.
    Kim
     
  12. Jun 24, 2020 #32
    Rob Pulham

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    Thanks Kim,

    The problem with lining is that unless you are doing it regularly you really need to have a lot of practice before you start on your chosen model.

    The other main error that people make is having their paint too thin. You actually shouldn't let enamels down at all and if it's a new tin you are actually better to pour off some or all of the oil that gathers at the top. If you keep it in a sealed container you can always add some later if it gets too thick. There is usually a note with The Easyliner and Bob Moore tube type pens to use a couple of drops of lighter petrol if you are struggling to get the paint to flow. What many don't appreciated is that the lighter fuel isn't to thin the paint it's to break the surface tension and allow it to flow through the tube better.

    Also although it's possible to line with acrylics as I have shown, and even though I do have an Easyliner pen, I much prefer to line with a bow pen and compasses.

    With a bow pen etc. enamels are much more forgiving and easier to tidy up thick bits and errant lines with a fine brush soaked in white spirit.

    When using a bow pen with acrylics they tend to dry up even quicker. As I type this I realise that with an artist in the house, we have acrylic retarder for stopping it drying so quick, but I haven't actually tried using it to help with lining. You would also be able to tidy up errant lines etc. with a fine brush and some IPA which dissolves acrylic paints nicely. Again I have used IPA to dissolve acrylics, but not to tidy up lining.
     
  13. Jun 24, 2020 #33
    jakesdad13

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    After 3 or 4 pints of IPA I don't seem to notice any errant lines :avatar:.
    I bought a pin striping tool for my motor bike tanks back in the day. That used neat humbrol enamels. I finished up giving it away unused. Its nice to see these tools getting used, keep up the good work, Rob and Kim :thumbs:

    Cheers, Pete.
     
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