York Paul's Britannia loco 2020 Shelf Queen competition entry.

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  1. York Paul

    York Paul Staff Member Moderator

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    This is the second blow over of Railmatch acrylic Loco Green paint using my airbrush, a couple more passes over the next few days should hopefully bring out the full colour tone and then once settled I can bring in the black. The Silvertown mechanical lubricators are now fitted onto their respective pedestal brackets and I even managed to drill out the oilways and add in lengths of 0.3mm wire. I could only manage five oil feed pipes per side on these twelve feed cases tho and in fairness pipes cannot been seen that much so just a few showing either side at the front will be enough.

    The ABC helical gearbox is on order now having had a bit of a faff with emails and I'm hoping to complete the final bits to the motion, I won't fit the motion and the Stones speedo until the motor is in and tested.


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  2. Rob Pulham

    Rob Pulham Happily making models Staff Member Administrator Feature Contributor

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    I hope you do quicker than I did with my last mail order from ABC. It took months to come so the last couple I have had from them I have ordered and collected at shows. I appreciate that you can't do the latter at present but thought it worth mentioning to forewarn you.
     
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    York Paul Staff Member Moderator

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    Thanks for the heads up Rob, today I received an acknowledgement email from ABC regarding the order and asking for payment transfer... I'm holding back because the email states my order has now been added to the waiting list and that doesn't really inspire much confidence. I'm also being given the same nonchalant attitude from a well know transfer company... what is wrong with all these people I ask myself. :facepalm::hammer:
     
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    I would like to say that it's to do with the current Covid situation but all my previous ABC orders have taken a couple of months or more to be fulfilled.
     
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    I guess most of us have a kind of "I want it.......NOW!" attitude, especially if we're stuck on a project and waiting for parts. I gather that in the good old USA, they expect and tend to get much better service, but often suppliers in the UK have a "you'll get it when I'm ready" attitude, and get away with it mainly since we don't often have a lot of alternative choices since parts suppliers in our line of hobby are a bit thin on the ground. I've had excellent service from small firms such as Connoisseur, Poppy's Woodtech, Scalelink and Nairnshire Modelling Supplies, but on the other hand there are others (no names, no pack drill!) who would do well to take a leaf out of the book of these firms, order fulfilment times stretching into weeks and sometimes months. How do these firms manage to stay in business I ask myself? I'm not questioning the quality of parts in general when they eventually arrive, and I do appreciate that many firms are 'one man' businesses run on a part-time basis in conjunction with a full-time job elsewhere, but why not do as Jim McGeown (Connoisseur) has recently done and announce that due to high order levels, no further orders will be accepted until September? That gives Jim 'breathing space' to get existing orders out, reorder and receive brass frets from his supplier, make up cast white metal parts and get kits posted out. Being honest and communicating with customers is I'm sure the best way to keep them, and customers either prospective or current then know exactly where they are and when further orders will be accepted. Then of course we have the businesses that take your cash immediately with no further contact from them for weeks/months........don't get me started on those!
    Keith.
     
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    True and very wise words Keith, it's not so much a "want it here and want it now" thing with me but a few of these operators present their wares as if it was a full time business and I do object paying money up front if goods don't arrive for several weeks, ten days or so is ok as a max but beyond that no I'm not really buying into the delay myth. I think I'll email and request a lead time for dispatch and if I get oh a couple or three weeks I'm going to suggest making only a 10 percent deposit with final full payment once dispatch is made.
     
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    Toto I'm best ignored Staff Member Founder Administrator

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    Sounds fair Yorkie. We should not be subsidising their businesses by having large sums of our money in their bank accounts. Not that the interest rate is much cope right now but that's not the point.

    Play fair is all we ask.

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    Currently I have three well known sellers who are fobbing me off or who have not sent out goods already paid for, I can understand the transfer company in having to preplan print runs but they shouldn't advertise bespoke services if they cannot deliver, the gearbox trader just talks rubbish and the emporium seller couldn't even get the delivery address right and hasn't responded to my emails... that order dates back to 22nd July.

    I don't suffer fools gladly and as with Dundee's belated track order folk don't call the bloke who runs C&L "Doorknob" for no reason. :avatar:
     
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    I've had an interesting experience with a kit. I ordered a loco kit from one supplier and a set of milled coupling rods for it from another supplier on the same day. I paid for the kit upfront. Rods where cash on delivery. Rods arrived in two days and I sent a check in the preadressed envelope. The kit arrived after 2 months with some chasing. I appreciate the situation has made supply difficult but the guy who refused to take my money till the item arrived actually got it to me before the item i had actually paid for
     
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    Interesting experience Paul and coincidentally the gearbox man has now returned to me saying the item is not stock and he will endevour to make my helical 30 to 1 box within two weeks, no mention of full payment on completion but I get the impression a firmly polite and business like approach often works, so we shall see if he delivers as promised.

    Anyway onto more interesting subjects hows your build coming along ?
    cheers Yorkie
     
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    This last few days I turned focus towards getting the bodywork into basic paint before varnishing to apply transfers and lining, all on order and hopefully will arrive soon as the ones I ordered are not special items, anyway the nameplates and other badges are now fitted and will become sealed under varnish. All we need now is an helical gearbox unit and then I can wire the loco with pick ups and run it in, once happy I'll fit the valve motion which is all made up ready.

    So here we are on the Rail over River scenic diorama with 70010 Owen Glendower posing in the misty sunlight of this afternoon.


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    And going away into the mists having crossed over the River Churnet... actually I'm not sure a Britannia ever ran down the Churnet Line... but hey ho this is our hobby and whatever goes goes.:thumbup:



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    You must be pleased with the result Yorkie. A beast of a loco anybody would be proud to have in their fleet.

    Toto
     
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    good to hear some progress on the gearbox. unfortunately i have stalled due to family commitments and diy projects. on the plus side i have laid a screeded floor which is a new skill for me. My trusty antex has gone on the blink too so waiting for a new Iron to arrive. I did order another loco kit and have gone for the cash on delivery option so im not paying for something upfront which takes two or three months to arrive.

    Loving Owen glendower. I would like to add a Britannia to my fleet. One of the 40b Immingham ones would be first choice. A couple of slightly controversial names amongst the allocation to pick from. I'm not sure naming a loco Clive of India would be allowed today
     
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    York Paul Staff Member Moderator

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    Happy to know that Owen Glendower is bringing pleasure and inspiration, I have enjoyed the build and indeed at some point would do another Brit. Owen Glendower was first choice for me since it was the only Brit I ever saw in working service way back at Prestatyn in 1966, a second one for me would probably be one of the later loco's fitted with a BR1G tender, as for names I hadn't given that much thought. I suppose such named subjects and topics are like anything contemporary they fall in and out of fashion and the choices of the 1952 naming panel wouldn't been seen as relevant today and in some aspects not even palatable. Having said that I don't do politics and for me modeling a particular engine is a recognition of historical fact but I certainly get what you mean about a couple of those 40B named Brits.:avatar:
     
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    I think i will play it safe and go for Robin Hood or Bodicea. Although the pronunciation of the later seems to cause argument. Like you I like to model locos I have seen or have some connection weather directly or through family. I need to build 100hp sentinel as my grandfather drove one at a local factory. My grandmother also worked in the kitchen at Harewood house, which means a B17 will have to be constructed at some time. sometimes i just pick locos with names that apeal or I find amusing too.
     
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    Phew that was close cos the next Brit I fancy doing is Rudyard Kipling because the reservoir near where I lived was named after him. I checked out on shed allocations and it was at 40B in 1963 ending its days at Kingmoor same as Owen G... 70035 had the same 1A tender so I guess my next Standard build could well have a large capacity tender. As our great flounder Toto often says... but things could well change.:thumbup::avatar:
     
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    Hope this works
    wasn't he named after the res? Was the res really named after him?
     
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    Yes you are correct Mr S it was Rudyard Reservoir which inspired Kiplings parents to name him that. Can't beat it nothing like getting a bit of history wrong... we need more Modernists painting engines really gaudy shades of florescent green. :avatar:
     
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    I dont know about loco's...... but he does make exceedingly good cakes. :facepalm:

    Sorry yorkie. I'm outta here.
     
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    I do like the larger tenders. ive seen an Acorn Clan for sale on Ebay. Just talking myself out of buying it.
     
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