Hi all, Rather than keep adding posts to the 'welcome' thread, I thought I'd start a new 'slow burner' on here. Following on from very good suggestions in that thread, I've just spent an hour in the local library, with their OS maps from 1911/17, and also numerous photos from that era, and before/after. The photo's were simply amazing! I recall my grandfather telling me of 2-6-4's and 2-6-0's operating at Mansfield GCR station, but I also discovered Mansfield had a separate LNER station! I also had a thought that the Steam TMD faced towards the central railway station, when in fact it faced away. How strange. The OS maps were very useful for visualising track layout, and also that next to the station was a goods building/yard, and a cattle yard. Instant idea! One thing I did realise is the track will take further planning to bring in undulations and also some bridges/viaducts of some kind. I also came to the conclusion I could not do it justice in OO, as I don't have the space(board size is 10ft by 8 1/2 feet chaser, with a centre working area), so I'll further explore N gauge. I'm looking at cheating a little, in doing era 5 and 6, as when the sidings for goods were taken out, the main station was still in use for passengers but the line was heavily used for freight. Examples of the kind of freight is evident from the very large Shirebrook N Gauge Railway (an internet search will find photos). I'm a month or two from breaking ground, but when the time is right, I'll start adding photos. There will be some artistic licence, but provided I can get the stock I'm thinking of... I've also obtained Rail Modeller Pro for Mac. Seems very easy to use, so will give me chance to at least visualise what I'm trying to achieve. Finally, a big thanks to those suggestions re local library and OS maps - it's not all on the internet! Cheers for now, Andy.
Sounds good, looking forward to this thread taking off, I may need stronger glasses to see the models. Paul
Sounds like a great working strategy Andy, I've always used research as a tool in creating realism and realistic to life scenes and dioramas... looking forward to you progressing this project forward. cheers York Paul
Tackling a project in 'N' gauge means you must have better eyesight than me Andy! Amazing what old OS maps can tell you about past railway history. Did you perhaps see recent local TV news about the Bennerley Viaduct near Cotmanhay/Ilkeston, a Grade 2 listed monument now part of a 300 mile bike trail combined with the only other similarly listed wrought iron one down in Devon, Meldon Viaduct? I believe Meldon quarry was where the Southern Region got all it's ballast from. Apparently Bennerley was on the GNR from Nottingham Victoria towards Kirkby/Sutton in Ashfield, and I recall Andy Sollis mentioning that Sutton had 3 railway stations (as did Chesterfield) some years ago. I intend doing a walk on the Bennerley at some point during the warmer months, so I'll take a few pics when I do and post up for interest. Keith.
Hi Keith. It’s a case of compromises, really. 00 offers advantages but I don’t have the room to at least attempt to model in a realistic scenic. I did have N Gauge as a kid, but I do agree that I do need to think about the old eyesight. Thankfully there are plenty of aids to help I have been checking out plenty of other layouts - some exhibition standard, which mine won’t be. The skills involved, including electrical, painting, plasticard moulding etc are amazing. Part of the reason I’d like to have a go. I’m already thinking f how I’d do the huge glass canopy which went over the two lines at Mansfield.
Bennerley was on the Nottm Vic to Friargate like in Derby. Sutton had 4 stations! Central (GCR) Town (GN) Sutton junction(Midland) & the penny Emma in to where Matalan now stands (also Midland) although I’m bemused where Andy C has said there was another station in Mansfield? I’ve only ever know the Midland and the one on great central road, next to where we both worked? Go on, where was the other one? Andy
Believe it or not (and Shelley may have seen this or not) I used the off cuts of the laminator pouches. (And sometimes stuck the pouch through empty) That gave your glass and with some support or scribing, could give a roof.. although in recent years out Dept has not replaced the laminator after someone burnt it out jamming their daughter homework in it. Andy
A couple of basic and beginner questions, but then again I am new back to this hobby after some time. I’m considering using Code 55, but wanted to check whether is ok with older N Gauge rolling stock. I know there are some issues with older 00 scale stuff on their standard v fine scale track? I’ll be running DCC, so will be looking to solder the track in places. I’m ok at soldering, but has anyone had any issues with Code 55? Should I look to use the joining rails with wires attached, or solder the track itself (I think this could look a lot neater tbh). Thanks, Andy.
Hi Andy I can't offer advice to the suitability of Code 55 rail, but my advice for track connections, is to solder at least one wire dropper to each piece of rail. The wired joining rails are ok at first, but any dirt or corosion will cause the connection to deteriorate. Also check if the older loco's can take a DCC decoder. Take a look at the TCSdcc site for N scale installations - it may help Found these ones for the Grafar 94xx , Grafar 08 Paul
I'd solder feeder cables directly with the track as suggested by Paul. If possible, solder feeders to every length. You'll get far better reliability. Just my opinion and experience of course. Toto
I would suggest you don’t use rail joiners with wires attached. Joiners are the weakest link when it comes to transferring power from one track section to the next. Apply power to each track section.
I love this site - https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/ It overlays satalite images with OS maps and at the bottom left is a slider that changes the transparancy.
Yes I’m going to solder direct to the tracks, at suitable places to meet said wires to the bus wire. Thanks for those that have responded.
Have to agree with all about feeder wires from the track as opposed to relying on rail joiners. I know of a gent in South Australia who did O Gauge with no rail joiners at all.........he simply lined the track up accurately and relied on feeder wires from the rails to a bus.........personally, I would prefer to have the rail joiners purely to keep the rails aligned properly plus feeder wires from the rails for electrical integrity. Do it right, do it once as they say. Gormo
No worries, You can either solder to the outside of the rail ...... or .... cut away a bit of the plastic webbing and solder to the underside if the rail which is far less visible. I usually take a small file to the rail to get a nice rough surface to solder to. It also removes any agents app,used at the manufacturing process. The solder takes more willingly in my experience. Toto
This is exactly what I’m going to do for all track parts. I’ll be using electro frog points too, so there is a little bit of wiring to do with those as well. It will keep me busy.
The other option is of course is to solder the wires to the fishplates. That way it makes any adjustments later a little simpler and then each rail actually gets 2 feeds!
No very bad idea. Fishplates are not the ideal way to pass power to the track. They can come loose and should only be used to hold rails in place.
So why do Peco now sell them ready done? Not failed me yet on our outdoor line. Personally I have never done a link on every joint like I read some doing.. seems overkill to me and never had issues.. but each to their own. I may just have been lucky. Andy