MOK 8F - LMS 8425

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  1. Rob Pulham

    Rob Pulham Happily making models Staff Member Administrator Feature Contributor

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    I managed to progress the tender for the 8F a little more over the weekend and now the outer frames sport axles boxes and springs.

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    As can be seen from the inside, I soldered them on (with 100 degree solder). Before fitting them I added a small blob of 100 degree solder to the back of each spring damper. Once I had soldered the spigots from the inside I pressed on each damper with the none pointy end of a pencil and used the RSU again from the inside to quickly melt the solder, firmly attaching the dampers.

    As an aside, as I got them out to the box I noted that one of the dampers had broken off and I spent sometime reattaching it using 70 degree solder. I was just about to fit it when I saw that I already had the six that I needed. Dave sharp must have noted the broken one when he packed the kit all those years ago and popped in an extra.
     
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    my streamlined tender had 2 s prings missing so i thought thats ok i'll get some nice ragstones brass ones at Kettering, arrived home only
    to find 4 were missing out of a set 8 axle bearings etc :facepalm:

    Ken
     
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    Rob Pulham Happily making models Staff Member Administrator Feature Contributor

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    That's a bummer Ken,
    I have had a couple of similar experiences both at Guildex but on different years with different suppliers.

    First I bought a set of Joy motion from Laurie Griffin (before he gave up attending shows), I was showing Richard Lambert the castings on the Saturday night and he pointed out that there was only half the set there. Thankfully I had planned to visit again on Sunday and Laurie gave me the missing bits with much apology. Then last year at Stafford I bought some set of WEP compensation units from Walsall. Again I was examining them on the Saturday night and found that one of the packs didn't contain etches but lots of copies of the assembly instructions. When I went back to the Walsall stand on Sunday they were quite relieved as they couldn't find the instructions...
     
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    I have posted the label back to Andy but not heard any thing back, probably have to wait till Kempton
     
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    also found out the princess rods from Bill weren't the jointed ones, not a good day really, but a good show though
     
  6. Rob Pulham

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    Ah that's a bu**er, He will probably swap them if you ask I would think.
     
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    Today I finally cracked my enigma. One of the reasons that the build stalled back in 2018 was that I couldn't for the life of me work out how the water scoop mechanism went together.

    At this point I need to say a big thanks to fellow Guild member Ian Allen for pointing me in the right direction. As with all things when you know what to look for it is there in the instructions it's just not that clear.

    My problem was the arm that goes alongside the inner chassis.

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    I initially had it located in between the clevises at the front. When it needs to fit behind. This meant that when trying to fit the wheels the rod fouled them
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    Once I knew this it made things a bit clearer then I discovered that I had the linkage that the water scoop attaches to upside down.

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    With that corrected I was able to get it to fit together. It still needs fixing permanently in place but I have the balance weights to fit yet so I will wait until I have done that before making anything else that I might have to undo!

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    For Paul and Toto's benefit, there are higher resolution photos on my Flickr site that you can zoom into to get a better idea of what goes where.
     
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    Having worked out how it all fit turned out to be the easy bit!
    Assembling all the elements together with the balance weights was like trying to plait fog. You have to slip the cross pin through eight separate holes in the subassemblies. Much muttering ensued before I got it all together.

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    Although they are shown on the isometric drawing there is no provision for or mention in the instructions of the support adjuster rods for the scoop. I made them from some lengths of rod and microbore tube.

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    I have made a few of these Stanier Tenders by now and this is certainly the most detailed that I have done to date.
     
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    mok is defo one for detail and quality, now where does that bit go:scratchchin:

    Ken
     
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    In between times I have managed a little more on the 8F. The next job was reassembling the brakes. One thing that has bugged me for a few years is that one of the clevis castings hadn't fully formed when casting.

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    It would have been easy enough to just solder it on and have done with it but I remembered fellow modeller Tony Geary making some clevises to add detail to the brakes on one of his builds so I decided to have a go at one myself.

    I started with some square bar and turned a round spigot on the end. Then I reduced the next few millimetres down to the size of the arms of the clevis using a small Dremel burr as a milling cutter
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    a bit of hand filing gave me the basic shape

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    Then I drilled a couple of holes in either end of a stub of brass bar and temporarily soldered the two parts into it.
    This allowed me to cut the slots. I do have a full sized slitting saw for the mill but a couple of years ago while in one of the cheapo trading stores I bought a set of slitting saws for a Dremel type tool (notice a theme here?). I think they were a fiver for the full set.
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    I fitted it into the mill with a 0.8mm blade (the pack has several different thicknesses from 0.4 - 0.8mm) and I was really surprised at how little run out it had.

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    This is the end slit and then finally the finished clevis

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    Where's that white flag! :scratchchin:
     
  12. Andy_Sollis

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    Amazing! I would struggle to draw it, never mind create it
     
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