Mossys 3D Models

The tale of 3 little wagons.

Off we went on our mini break to the Lakes, I took with me components of 3 wagons which all needed to be assembled and I figured we are bound to get some bad weather and wagon building would fill in the time. As it was we only had 1 day of rain and most of it was taken up going to Maryport to see a friend on his boat, but I got most of a mornings assembly work done first. Well sort of .....

The D1/2 bolster wagons simply needed their brake gear fitting. This I had amended and re-printed after my first go. ^%$&&^%$ it still doesn't fit and needs altering again. Wagon 1 mossy nil.

The K1 Cattle wagon looked really pretty but for some reason the axle boxes didn't look right. After an application of nicotine, tannin and what's left of my brain the problem became obvious - the floor is fitting 1mm to low, the solution needs really thinking about it cos my design is a bit daft. Wagons 2 mossy nil.

The D10 bolster well this one must be ok - nope. Body fits great, floor fits great, axle boxes fits great, arghhhhhh the location pips for the wagon compensation units are 5mm out of alignment with the axleboxes, how the $%^& I manged that is lost in the mists of time. Wagons 3 Mossy nil. Thank goodness for good walking weather it got me away from the depressing failures.

A rethink on all 3 will be needed this week.

Mossy

 

Only twice? I think I'm going for 3 or 4 rechecks!

 

Hi Paul

I don't use etched W Irons. I decided I didn't trust resin W Irons, but fortunately found real simple 3 point compensation units for both 3ft wagon and 3ft 71/2" coach wheels.
The W Iron/Spring/Axlebox is a single 3d print and entirely dummy. The compensation units come from https://www.walsallmodelindustries.co.uk, they are ex WEP and cost the princely sum of £3.30 each, obviously other compensation units can be purchased! I figure with a bit of thought I can use the coach units for 3ft 6" brake van wheels as and when I get there.

Mossy

 

Andy

Simple answer yes depending what you want. My wagons are almost all pre 1900, with a few 1900-1910. the big boys wouldn't be interested in creating off the shelf kit for the low numbers they would sell. Post grouping and BR days yes they often available. I have a standard W Iron body, 2 versions of the spring assembly (different widths) and a series of axle boxes so I effectively have a build yourself an assembly kit (only wagons) which is appropriate for the vast number of NER wagons.

Mossy

 

Hopelessly off topic.

Tuesdays are walking days, today we did one of my wife's favourite walks a 12 mile loop out the back of Grassington. Neither of us put binoculars in which was a bad decision.
It turned into a bird watching super fest we saw almost ever bird you would expect on the Dales high ground. In no particular order and lots of all but the single Red Kite:- Oyster Catcher, Lapwing, Curlew, Sky Lark, Wind Chat, Red Kite, Wheatear and Golden Plover.

I have seen Golden Plover in Scotland and around Cross Fell, and heard but not seen them in the Peak and the Dales. We had been hearing them most of the day but they are shy birds which hide very effectively, for some reason I looked over a drystone wall and there 40 ft away were two in full breeding plumage of gold, black and white - a lovely first.



Mossy

 

Paul,

I spent some time on Monday looking at why my axlebox assemblies didn't fit the cattle wagon and again more time this morning. When the light bulb came on it's blindingly obvious. The NER almost always used 11" x 4 1/2 " timbers for the chassis, I settled on using 7mm x 3mm with the floor sitting on top of the chassis. Everything else on the chassis is based on that assumption. The K1 has 7mm deep drag beams BUT 5.5mm solebars, why I did that I don't know, it does however fit exactly with the drawing I used. The consequences of this means using my standard compensation units the whole thing would sits 1.5mm to high, and that's why you has to chop away the top of your w irons to make them fit. I still haven't decided on a remedy/fix.

If you want to complete the wagon I have a floor and roof, which fit, plus a full set of brake gear (which hasn't been test fitted) going spare - would you like then so you can complete the wagon. I must have an .stl of the axlebox lurking about so could easily print you a set of type 1a boxes off to go with your W irons.
To be strictly accurate you would need to get a set of NER short buffers from Invertrains or Haywoods Railways or just live with your highland buffers.

Mossy

 

Paul,

I should have your address but can't find it would you email it over to me.
The brake gear is all set up for a 7mm chassis, so your croppers etc will be needed.

I am about to print some replacement missing bits, so I will add on some 1A axleboxes, there is plenty of room

Mossy

 

Given the &^%$ up with the K1 Cattle truck and its chassis parts, in the cool early this morning I decided to sort it out and modify it to have a 7mm chassis, I also knew the G1 Van used an almost identical chassis and yes it too was set up to use a 5.5mm chassis so it was fixed as well.

Only then looking at the G1 .stls I had created I noticed one labelled 'axle assembly 5.5mm chassis', so I had obviously spotted the problem previously and generated a separate axle box assembly for the G1 and K1 - can someone please loan (give) me some memory cells. 3 hours work all for diddly squat if I had bothered to look. Anyway they now have standard 7mm chassis and the 5.5mm boxes are no longer required so the stl has been deleted.

Mea culpa

Mossy