Yarrawa Terminus Layout.

Discussion in 'Planks, Switching and Shelf Layouts' started by red clubbie, Apr 11, 2022.

  1. red clubbie

    red clubbie Full Member

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    Thanks Gormo...:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

    Yes, it will work out ok.

    I made the extra piece today and it's solidly attached, so no need for an additional leg.
    I followed Gary's tip on the cabinet connectors, but I also put in 2 additional bolts too.

    Cheers,
    Geoff.
     
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    The extension is completed and all trackwork and points are laid. 008 (2).JPG

    All track and point droppers are attached.
    I used the ControlIt module joiners and cut the track where needed.

    I'll take a break from the Layout at the moment, before installing the point motors and wiring.

    004 (2).JPG

    Cheers,
    Geoff.
     
  4. Gary

    Gary Wants more time for modelling.... Staff Member Administrator

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    You are moving along at a steady pace now ! :thumbs::thumbs::thumbs:

    What do you think of the Control It sleeper boards ? Makes it easy for joining/aligning track.

    One tip that I was put on to (of course after I had installed my Control It sleeper boards), is to insert a piece of styrene the same width as the dremel cutting disc, between the separate baseboards before soldering the rails. This way when the rails have been soldered then cut, releases the baseboards, remove the styrene and then place the baseboards back together again and there will be no gap between the opposing rails. ;)

    Cheers, Gary.
     
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    Very neat Geoff....:thumbs::thumbs::thumbs::thumbs::thumbs:
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    Now you tell me....:lol: :lol: :lol:

    I followed your Vid pretty much.
    I found them pretty easy to work with.
    Hopefully my gaps won't cause any problems.
    I ran a bogie van over the rails and it seemed good.

    Cheers,
    Geoff.
     
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    Yep, I found out afterwards too.... :faint:

    Cheers, Gary.
     
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    Guys,

    I have a question?....

    I was talking to someone during the week about the design of my Layout.
    I was talking to them about my storage tracks and how it was a non scenic storage area, that was at the end of Module 2.

    You access it, under a road bridge via a hole in the side backdrop.
    A comment was made as to maybe making the storage track area, a scenic area, taking away the side backdrop and keeping the road bridge as a scenic feature.

    The Layout will not be an exhibition layout, but a home layout, thereby a "hidden" storage area is not really needed.
    In both situations, I would have to manually removed and reset the Loco and brake van, in order to send it out again on the Layout.

    I could have buffers at the end of each storage track and then have would have both Modules with full scenery.
    If I am to change the design, now is the time before I start any scenery.

    Thought???.....pros and cons???

    Cheers,
    Geoff.
     
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    Not a bad idea to have it scenery on it.

    I think it depends on how much room you have for points, that is if you wish to have more than one storage road. The more points you add, the longer the storage yard will be or if you look at it the other way, the individual sidings will be shorter on the overall length of that base board, due to having points on it.

    On my Jay Dubyew North Yard layout, (see here : https://platform1mrc.com/p1mrc/index.php?threads/jay-dubyew-nth-yard.593/page-8#post-27494) I built a three road sector plate that swiveled at the far end.
    There is no reason that the sector plate can't be as wide as the base board and have scenery (ballast, soil, weeds, grass etc) on it to complete the scene...

    Cheers, Gary.
     
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    Thanks for your reply Gary.

    I've completed all the benchwork and trackwork. The storage area has 1 point with 2 tracks.
    If I were to scenic that area, then the 2 storage tracks would be like sidings in plain view with buffers at the end.....

    I don't really have the room to add a sector plate on the end, so what the length is now is what it will be.

    I'm thinking that when you look at the 2 modules, if they both have scenery on them, then it will give a more rounded look, rather than being broken up
    by the side backdrop.

    I'm just not sure how it will look without having an off scene "storage" area.
    In other words, when a train leaves the Station and heads up under the road overbridge, it will then be on the sidings where it will have to stop.

    Cheers,
    Geoff.
     
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    I hear what you are saying about aesthetics on the layout and it's overall look. Perhaps add a house or another former rail served building to the yard side of the bridge to disguise the scene a little more. The extra buildings will also add a little more visual interest as well as extend that peripheral change between the station precinct and the yard. (see image)


    As for a sector plate, it can be built onto your current bench work. You can use of 3mm ply or MDF for the plate itself and the track glued to this. ;)

    On my current layout build, I didn't have any storage roads, it was simply going to be end to end running, but that did not allow for switching different trains out. I needed to incorporate a fiddle yard/storage tracks on my existing bench work/baseboards.
    To achieve this I decided to remove one industry on the peninsula and incorporate two extra points. This gives me three roads, the middle road being the shortest at 770mm, the outer road on the inside at 850mm, and the outer road closest to the baseboard edge is 980mm. Yes, I did loose some scenery to the extent of another industry, but I will model this as a classification yard instead by simply just ballasting, adding weeds and grass and a few signs, maybe even a set of gates to the yard.



    Cheers, Gary.
     
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    Gary, thanks for your input.

    Plenty there to think about.

    I'm going to Rosehill tomorrow so I'll see if there is some inspiration for me that I can maybe use on the layout.

    I might give you a call next week to have a talk about some options.
    I just want to make sure I'm taking in all the matters that need to be considered.

    Cheers,
    Geoff.
     
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    Not much has been happening with the Layout over the last couple of weeks.
    I have been thinking about the design plan and I have decided to stay with the original design.

    I had discussed about making the storage track area a scenic area, but I was worried that i would have no area to rearrange trains.
    They would have been just sitting out in the open and I wanted an "off scene" area where I could change locos and reset wagons and carriages.
    It would have been nice to have a transverser for this purpose, but space constraints have ruled that out.

    I will still have 1 and a half modules that will have scenery, so I think I'm happy with that.

    Next is the wiring of the droppers to the BUS, installing and wiring the 8 point motors and hopefully seeing if it all runs....

    Cheers,
    Geoff.
     
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    Progress has been a bit slow of late. Life tends to get in the way sometimes.
    Today all the wiring and point motors were installed and the first loco has been run....
    The wiring needs a little tidy up but both Modules are now up and running.
    The point motors are Cobalt Digital IP and I will be operating them from my NCE Power Cab.
    The Layout only has 8 points, so it is manageable to operate them in this manner.
    I think if you had more points, then this operation might not be the best option, but they work and I'm pretty happy with that. 024.JPG
     
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    Progress is progress ! Good to read that it all runs well and the points throw as they should. Keep up the good work. :thumbs::thumbs::thumbs:

    Cheers, Gary.
     
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    Thanks Gary.
    Next step is the get the Modules up on their legs, attach the backdrop and make a start on the lighting brackets.

    Cheers,
    Geoff.
     
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    Nice tidy layout …..I would suggest using your NCE to set up macro’s which will then give you full route control on the layout. I’ve done this on a layout with 6 IP cobalts and on my own home layout which has 10.
     
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    Thanks Gary.
    Next step is the get the Modules up on their legs, attach the backdrop and make a start on the lighting brackets.

    Cheers,
    Geoff.
    Yes, good point....

    I'll have to do some further reading on macros, but it is certainly something to consider.

    Thanks for the heads up.

    Cheers,
    Geoff.
     
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    If you need any help just ask.
     
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    Will do....

    Cheers,
    Geoff.
     

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