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Discussion in 'Kits, Kit bashes & Scratch builds' started by Toto, Jul 31, 2018.

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  1. Jul 31, 2018 #1
    Toto

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    One of the new stash from Ellis Clark. Complete with wheels .
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    Pictures to follow

    Cheers

    Toto
     
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    Toto

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    Bruce bonus with this loco. I was reluctant to take it as I never imagined that they had run in Scotlan. ...... well well well, they were everywhere in Scotland. St Margaret, Haymarket, Dundee ........ it goes on and on. What a complete bit of luck.

    Chuffed now.

    Toto
     
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    Rob Pulham

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    By coincidence I have seen a couple of these recently and they can make up into good kit's but...

    A couple of things to be aware of -
    1. There is only half of the smokebox saddle the other side etch was never included so you either scratch build the other side based on the side that you have or you buy a casting from ACE for about £7 I believe.
    2. The motion looks really flimsy and if I ultimately buy one (as I might) I would replace all the motion with something a bit more substantial - I wouldn't want to go to the effort of making it all work to find that it got chewed up the first time I attempted to run it.
     
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    Toto

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    Almost sounds like a vote of confidence. :avatar::thumbs:
     
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    Rob Pulham

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    As I said the two that I have seen looked good when built and I am considering one myself.
     
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    Toto

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    and here are some pictures specifically to tease you then ....... the least I can do. :avatar: i did not bother with the destructions unless anyone specifically wants them.


    out of the box comes the following ........


    Loco wheels all present and correct .........


    tender wheel ........ erm ..... :scratchchin: wrong ones but they will do a class 24 / 25 ( wont they York Paul )


    the usual bags of white metal, buffers and stuff


    name plates so a little investigation required to see where this was based.


    loco chassis etches ....


    loco footplate etc .......


    loco cab etches
     
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    York Paul

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    Disc bogie wheels of 3' 9" diameter by Slaters are ref B7845 and these wheelsets fit Classes 24, 25, 40, 45, 46, 47 and 56.
     
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    York Paul

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    The 34 Hunt or Shire class D49 locomotives were fitted with Robinson GCR 4000 gallon tenders (all but one loco that was) and according to records the wheelsets fitted to these tenders were 4' 3" diameter. Slaters list available wheelsets as a 12 spoke general pattern ref number 7851 which I presume would be the correct type for this tender but am not sure. Don't forget Morayshire is preserved on the Bo'ness & Kineal Railway so you could always have a jaunty up to it sometime. Hope this info helps.
     
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    Rob Pulham

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    What's the bets that the kit comes with a group standard tender which they were fitted with when built....The change ex GCR tenders taking place in the 1940's

    Not sure if it's of any interest but there is a Gladiator GCR tender kit for sale on the Guild E&T lists for £50 - no wheels or instructions but what do you expect for £50
     
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    Rob Pulham

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    The tender kit might have been of interest to me if I had been modelling a later period but mine will have the group standard tender attached to it as in the 1930's - thinking about it further I am pretty certain that the kit has the group standard tender because I was admiring that too on one of the builds and talking to the chap that built it he said it was quite straightforward which is a good sign. - you don't often get ACE and straightforward in the same sentence so savour it....:avatar:
     
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    Toto

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    not at the moment Rob but thanks for letting me know. :thumbs:

    cheers

    toto
     
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    Toto

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    Unfortunately the tender etches are missing. The box describes a loco build but does not state tender. Again, i was under the impression that these kits supplied both. Another word in Ellis's shell like otherwise I am trying to source one. i note the one above but without the destructions ....... Mmmmmm I'll check out the price of a new one from ACE or Gladiator if they do one.

    cheers

    toto
     
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    Rob Pulham

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    I am sure that David Hill would let you have a set of instructions for it but to be fair there isn't much to a tender that would stress you once you have a few builds under your belt.

    https://www.aceproducts.org/index.php?route=product/product&path=6_26&product_id=66 - although it doesn't say it explicitly, the inference from the photo is that you get a group standard tender with it.

    To but a new tender from Gladiator it would be £110 from the last one that I bought
     
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    Toto

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    Cheaper buying the full kit or ask how much they would charge for a separate tender.
     
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    Toto

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    Good news ...... Ellis is going to order the appropriate tender and forward it on. A very accommodating chap indeed, nothing any trouble. thanks Ellis.
     
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    Toto

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    A suitable tender sourced from Jim Mcgeowan, tarnished but will clean up fine including various castings £ 50.00.

    He consulted his LNER green book and it's amazing the various tenders that were allocated to the many variation of this class at different stages due to refits and modifications.

    Happy chappy.

    Toto
     
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    York Paul

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    Last allocation before withdrawal for 8512 / 62712 was 64G Hawick
     
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    Toto

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    Tender arrived this morning. Very nice. No real sign of any tarnishing to me anyway. All neatly packaged as always and a very quick service.

    Many thanks Jim.

    One happy customer.

    Photos later as usual

    Cheers

    Toto
     
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    Toto

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    and here they are ......


    the various castings etc ......


    and a set of nice clean brass etchings

    and thats it.

    cheers

    toto
     
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    York Paul

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    That's a lucky purchase Toto... very nice.:tophat::thumbup:
     
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