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An O gauge LMS brake van.

Discussion in 'Kits, Kit bashes & Scratch builds' started by Andy_Sollis, Feb 16, 2021.

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  1. Feb 16, 2021 #1
    Andy_Sollis

    Andy_Sollis Staff Member Moderator

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    Now mid last year, a railway contact I had was parting with his collection. Amongst one of his offerings was this brake van, part complete, slightly damaged, but restorable..

    First inspection showed a huge weight inside so in was blown for doing an interior. I could see a few lamp brackets missing and also a foot step and the brackets.. the seller included a second identical brake van, but it too in a worse state and looked like the gear had been sat in a bucket of salty water.. :( it didn’t really offer the missing parts but obviously being in to 3D design and printing, I drew up some replacement lamp irons. 3 were missing off the ends and the four on the sides.

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    I made my own. The white ones were done via Shapeways and the green ones made later on a resin printer.
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    The huge ballast weight within.

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    New irons fitted. You will Also note the missing footstep on the first photo. I need to copy the brackets and then make a board from plasticard. AF354AFC-9E07-458A-8F19-CC69EEC1F48C.jpeg

    the underside showing the wheel sets on this brake van too.
    Anyone recognise the make?

    more to follow.
     
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  2. Feb 16, 2021 #2
    Rob Pulham

    Rob Pulham Happily making models Staff Member Administrator Feature Contributor

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    Hi Andy,

    Do you mean the kit or the wheels?

    The kit is Parkside Dundas and the wheels look like Slaters to me (which are usually supplied with the PD kit).
    If you are considering replacing footstep supports you might want to consider making them from brass strip for better resilience.

    If you really want to push the boat out Slater will sell a sprue of cast brass ones from their LMS Brake van kit. And Metalsmith (Leeds) sell nice milled brass angle for the replacement footboard.

    In true blue peter fashion here are some that I made from milled angle for my Slaters LNER Brake van

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    I have built one of these and sold it quite recently.
     
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    Andy_Sollis

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    It was the actual Kit Rob.

    the main runners are OK, it’s just the small step that’s missing, but thanks for the suggestion. May be of use for the later one if I decide to restore that one.. ..

    next I think is to strip what i can metalwork wise (buffers and wheels) before washing and a coat of primer. Although, I’m pretty sure the axles are trapped in by the brake rigging.
     
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    Rob Pulham

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    Hi Andy,

    You can wash with the wheels in but you need to dry them thoroughly when you take them out of the water.
    I use an old hairdryer to get the bulk off and then run it up and down on a piece of old t shirt material to ensure that the treads dry.

    When spraying with the wheels in I wind thin strips of masking tape around the treads to save having to clean paint off them later. It's a bit fiddly getting it past the brake shoes but doable with patience.
     
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    Andy_Sollis

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    Sounds a plan.
     
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    jakesdad13

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    Another method of masking the wheel treads is to paint them with windowleen, once dry paint them and when the paint is dry, buff off the treads.

    Pete.
     
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    Rob Pulham

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    Hi Pete,
    I have also used Vaseline smeared on the treads quite successfully in my 4mm days. I must admit anything were you have to rub at the tyre to et the paint off is a pain and these days I find it easier to just grab the end of the masking tape and pull.
     
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    Gary

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    Nice Andy. I have an LMS brake van to build. Your pics are valuable !

    Cheers, Gary.
     
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    Andy_Sollis

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    Yes, hope to make some progression.
     

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