Connoisseur Models NBR 20 Ton Brake Van

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  1. Toto

    Toto I'm best ignored Staff Member Founder Administrator

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    A nice version of a Scottish allocated brake van on order from Jim.

    Pictures when it arrives.

    Cheers

    Toto
     
  2. Rob Pulham

    Rob Pulham Happily making models Staff Member Administrator Feature Contributor

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    Here's one I did earlier


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    I have another kit in a drawer which I plan to do as a six wheeled version at some point to go with it.
    I have build photos if they are of any use?
     
  3. Toto

    Toto I'm best ignored Staff Member Founder Administrator

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    Build photos always welcome. :thumbs:
     
  4. Rob Pulham

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    Do you want them on here or a separate thread?
     
  5. Toto

    Toto I'm best ignored Staff Member Founder Administrator

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    Stick them in here Rob. They will be easier to find by all. :thumbs:
     
  6. Rob Pulham

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    Your wish.....

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    As it comes the van only has a floor in the 'veranda' end with the doors in it. I made a floor for the other section from a piece of .3mm brass sheet.

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    It just slots in with the aid of a couple of bits of angle.
    What isn't so clear on the photos and I don't seem to have taken any of it on it's own, is that the brake standard isn't the one that Jim supplies (I used that elsewhere:scratchchin:) The one in this van is a modified Sidelines brass casting - I just made a yoke to fit on the top and take the wheel to fit from the side rather than the top.

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    I used some scrap etch to back the brakes and make them less prone to being inadvertently bent.
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    I made the roof removable by soldering a couple of strips of scrap etch suitably curved so that they are a tight fit (this gets even tighter with a coat of paint).

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    I started to fit the handrails and initially I did them as per the instructions - but as I was working around them using a photo from LNER Wagons Volume 3 as a guide I noted that that hand rails are a little peculiar in that they curve at each side of the door.

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    I made a little jig from a piece of scrap so that they were all the same size, then flattened the end in a pair of smooth pliers and drilled them for retaining pins.

    The horizontal rails then fit to these. I don't seem to have a photo of these in the brass so to speak so you will have to settle for one with a lick of paint on it.

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  7. paul_l

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    Think I just heard the thud of Toto's Jaw hitting the desk and the kit going back into the Drawer marked for later :avatar:

    See that brake gear on the wagon kits wasn't that bad after all :avatar:

    Paul
     
  8. Rob Pulham

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    Ooops I am supposed to be encouraging by showing what's possible not sending people scurrying for cover.

    I had a put together a more detailed continuation of the build but my recently updated Chrome decided that it didn't like something on the page and forbade me from posting and when I tried to go back it had binned the whole post. I will try again later. GRRRR..:hammer:
     
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    Very nice build Rob
    Looks like a nice kit that fits together nicely
    Really like your hand rails rework looks great.
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  10. Toto

    Toto I'm best ignored Staff Member Founder Administrator

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    Thank you for the pictures Rob. I like the additional brass floor section. I have some sheet brass that I could use for that. It will also give more strength to the wagon as well. :thumbs:

    Cheers

    Toto
     
  11. Rob Pulham

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    No problem Tom,
    I hope that they are of some use when you build yours. I did a few other changes too - I replaced the white metal brake standard with a modified Sidelines brass example. The modification consisted of making a yoke to fit on the top that allowed the wheel to sit on the side of the column.

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    Originally these vans were fitted sand pipes at either end which were still fitted in LNER days so I added them. I also added a couple of sand boxes in the veranda end of the van.


    You can relax Tom they were removed later in life:thumbs:


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    The other thing that I did was make the ducket casting at least have the appearance of being hollow and that you could see through the windows.

    I did this by cutting and filing some small pieces of 1mm cobex sheet and inserted them in each end of the ducket so that you can see through them.
     
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    Good idea Rob. Makes for a more believe able model. Nice work.
     
  13. Toto

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    My kit was waiting on my return from Berlin today. Looks nice, the usual pictures will follow.

    Cheers

    Toto
     
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    As promised ...... as it comes .....
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    toto
     
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    I've just delved into this kit to have a better look at it and think it's worth mentioning another couple of points.firstly, this kit comes with a white metal figure which seems to be the case with Jim's brake vans and some of his loco kits. That is always a plus point in my book.
    Perhaps more of note is the instructions. These are usually always pretty good with Jim's kits. At least any I have purchased and that is quite a few. However, the instructions with this kit I would say are a further improvement on what was already comprehensive before. They flow well and Jim has even shown how to make a very handy jig for when boring out white metal axle guards. He also provides samples of known running numbers for potential use with the wagon and whilst this is not necessarily a first for his kits, is good to see that it is being included.
    I am not sure why he hasn't designated this a x kill builder kit because I feel that it looks like one of the most straight forward kits I've seen in the range.Maybe the fact that the handrails etc are a little more challenging on this model would explain that.
    Don't get the last statement confused with " this is easy " certainly not in my case. I stick my head above the parapet posting on these kit threads using myself as the lowest possible denominator as far as skill levels go so most others new to this area of the hobby should find it a breeze if I can understand it.
    One more point. Another very handy thing is the ability to download a copy of the destructions prior to committing to buying any of Jim's kits. This gives a great idea of if it's within your skill set or not. ( not that I take much note of that, I just buy em anyway ).
    Cheers
    Toto
     

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