Hornby Pullman rake

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  1. mydadstoys

    mydadstoys Full Member

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    Hi I’m wanting to put together a rake of Hornby Pullman coaches. Can I ask does the first class kitchen car ‘minerva’ go with the third class parlour car No 34 as in the pictures on trackshack.
    Any advice will be appreciated.
     
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    Hi Kevin,
    Found 8 references for Minerva and Car 34 in the same formations of the Golden Arrow.Also
    1 time they were in the same allocation for the Devon Belle but not in the same Formation . One was in Train 1 and one was in Train 2 of the Ilfracombe Portion of the Devon Belle.

    Golden Arrow Formations

    1951 June 18th & September 10th, 1951 - Allocation Golden Arrow. Aquila, Carina, Cygnus, Hercules, Isle of Thanet, Minerva, Orion, Pegasus, Zena, CAR No.34, 35, 36 & 208.

    1952 June 13th & September 15 th, 1952 - Allocation Golden Arrow. Aquila, Aries, Carina, Cygnus, Hercules, Isle of Thanet, Minerva, Orion, Pegasus, Phoenix, Zena, CAR No.34, 35, 36 & 208.

    1952 October 18th - Allocation Golden Arrow. Minerva, Hercules, Carina, Cygnus, Pegasus, Perseus, Aries, Phoenix, Aquila, CAR No.34 & 36.

    1953 June 8th, September 21st, 1953, June 14th, 1954 and September 20th, 1954 - Allocation Golden Arrow. Aquila, Aries, Carina, Cygnus, Hercules, Isle of Thanet, Minerva, Orion, Pegasus, Phoenix, CAR No.34, 35, 36 & 208.

    Devon Belle Formations

    Table below shows this situation in 1949
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    This is the 1949 Folder issued
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    Hope this helps for your Query.
    Regards,
    Roger P
    Perth
    Oz.
     
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    pertyowl Full Member

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    PS. Unable to find any photos of the 2 cars in the consists mentioned in previous Post,
    regards.
    Roger P.
     
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    Cheers Roger, some great info again from your archives. I’m sure Kevin has found this info useful.
    :tophat:Kim
     
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    Hi guys sorry it’s been a while but all the information was indeed helpful.:thumbs:
     
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    Hello All,

    I often wonder how the Pullmans made money considering that the supplement went to Pullman, and the rest of the train ticket fare went to the railway.As a generalisation there was one kitchen car to serve two carriages, so you are looking at 4 staff per two carriages, as the kitchen was approximately the size of two compartments, so that is 20 Pullman staff for 10 carriages. The relatively short runs of the Bournemouth Belle and the Brighton Belle would also mean prep and cooking time was at a premium, which may also imply an additional allowance for food wastage, as people eat at a different rate, so not everyone will consume, or want, the full servings that were on offer. When you watch competition cooking shows like Master Chief and My kitchen Rules ( in Australia, I presume British TV has something similar ) you wonder how multiple meals are prepared in a minuscule kitchen enclosed within a rocking and rolling carriage. Carriage movement is not a problem for a sitting passenger, but is potentially hazardous for a standing chef !

    Regards, Echidna
     
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