Latton Street

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  1. Gary

    Gary Wants more time for modelling.... Staff Member Administrator

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    Ah yes, that I overlooked... :oops:

    Cheers, Gary.
     
  2. Toto

    Toto I'm best ignored Staff Member Founder Administrator

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    It's always good to chat through the options though as you are just testing the theory of the plan out as you go. Better now than once the track is down.

    It looks very exciting.

    Keep up the great work Ed. :thumbs:
     
  3. ed

    ed Full Member

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    Just a boring woodwork picture, put I thought I'd post it at it shows what I thought was level three years ago wasn't :oops:

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    There's 12mm of MDF packing under the right hand side of the middle baseboard where the spirit level is.

    Didn't help in that I hadn't put enough bracing under the old board either, so it sags. Double :oops::oops:.

    I'll have to put packing under that small right hand board that comes around the corner as well, but just shows you can't skimp on the baseboard construction.

    Also proves I've learned something being on these forums :cool:

    Ed
     
  4. ed

    ed Full Member

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    Think I need a catch point, SL-84.

    Don't plan to make it operational, purely cosmetic.

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    Ed
     
  5. ed

    ed Full Member

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    While waiting for the paint to dry on the baseboards I revisited another version I did a while back with four platforms, and also moved the road bridge onto the left hand board and set it at an angle.

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    Disadvantages are, I've shorted the head shunt by about 80mm and the top platform is a bit short.

    :scratchchin:

    Ed
     
  6. gormo

    gormo Staff Member Administrator

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    G`day Ed,

    I like this plan.....it flows nicely but.???.....do you actually need the two points at the arrow points.???...I may be wrong but I think it would work equally as well with out them...:scratchchin:

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  7. ed

    ed Full Member

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    Think that's what Toto was asking back in post #12 Gormo.

    If you take those two points out, all traffic would then have to got through the left hand point next to the cross over, creating a bottle neck.

    As it's set up, a train can arrive at the longest (lower) platform, at the same time one leaves either of the two (or three) shorter platforms.

    It's classic 'Minories' with two opposite crossovers, one facing and one trailing.

    The fact I've got them round the wrong way (as really the first crossover should be trailing), is purely down to the space constraints.

    Ed
     
  8. gormo

    gormo Staff Member Administrator

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    Yep!!!....it sure was.,

    Sorry...missed that one...:twitch::twitch:

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  9. ed

    ed Full Member

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    I've tidied things up a bit.

    The head shunt (Platform 1) is a bit short, but would take a DMU/EMU or a Class 08 with three coaches to be shunted back into the sidings.

    Alternatively some sort of short freight train, vans maybe, if one of the sidings becomes some sort of unloading facility.

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    Ed
     
  10. Dave C

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    Hi Ed. Ref probems with 3 way points. Ive got 2 on Setforth Junction - 1 at the exit from the Up line Fiddle yard and one going into the sidings. After a bit of tweaking on the fiddle yard point initial frog switching problems were overcome and it works faultlessly. I use 16v with a CDU and operate by pushbuttons wired into diodes so one push will switch both motors if required to set the route. It gets an awful lot of traffic but only 1 way, and Ive never had a de railing problem.

    The one in the sidings is 'rarely used' by comparison, and has not caused any diffuculties.

    I seem to get more problems with stock on the curved electrofrog turnouts, either stalling or derailing, but discovered at the weekend by taking some sandpaper to the plastic check rail and very slightly opening up the gap by a few thou the problem was cured.

    I'm curious about the guttering suggestion for storage. Could someone start another topic with more info?

    Dave C
     
  11. ed

    ed Full Member

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    Hi Dave

    Potential problems with the code 100 three way were mentioned on another forum and when I investigated further it appears a lot of people had problems, mainly from turning left from the toe which appears to be the tightest curve.

    On the other hand, there also appears to be loads of people like yourself who have no problems at all.

    However, since all traffic was going to go through the three way and it would be the most used point on the layout, I thought it best to play safe and leave it out.

    (Also suddenly realised getting OLE over a three way could be a bit tricky)

    The guttering being used for cassette storage was something I saw on the web on an O gauge exhibition layout, but of course I can't find the link now.

    I did buy one piece and did a quick mock up last month.

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    Might work, but it's really just an idea at present. One of many possibilities.

    Ed
     
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    ed Full Member

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    Found a link to a RMweb picture.

    http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/54751-west-kirby-town-dingham-autocouplings-still-being-tested/page-50#entry2332198
     
  13. Dave C

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    Ok. Got it. I think I'll give that a try on my temporary fiddle yard as track is only loosely held down with drawing pins. Brackets on the wall should be cheap and a doddle!

    Dave C
     
  14. ed

    ed Full Member

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    Thought I really ought to post an update.

    Slow progress as I had a skin infection on one leg that left me pretty much stuck indoors for four weeks. Three lots of antibiotics and still got a dressing on the leg, but have manged to get a bit done.

    Old view of the planned throat.

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    Where I'm currently at, with a single slip replacing two of the points. The slip is Insulfrog and operated by two surface mounted motors from the old layout (waste not, want not).

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    The accessory decoders are on top as I was a bit unsure of clearance under the board, but they can be hidden with the sort of nondescript type of brick buildings you tend to get at an urban terminus.

    What I didn't realise was how much wiring would be needed in a fairly small space. Bit of a balance between trying to keep it tidy and at the same time keeping the wires (especially for the point motors) as short as possible.

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    I'm almost at the stage of bolting the two main boards back together, which means I can lay track across the join into the station and start on building platforms.

    Apologies for dark pictures but it's always dark at this end of the garage. Once I've got a bit further on, I plan to put some additional lighting in.

    Ed
     
  15. gormo

    gormo Staff Member Administrator

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    Lookin` good Ed....:thumbs:

    Using the slip instead of points makes the track look like it flows better IMHO.

    Whether we go DCC or Analogue you can`t avoid wiring unfortunately. Your wiring looks fine to me. If you look under my boards it looks like an explosion in the spaghetti factory.....:avatar::avatar::avatar::avatar:

    Keep up the steady progress mate...:thumbs:

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  16. Toto

    Toto I'm best ignored Staff Member Founder Administrator

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    Great start Ed. sorry to hear of your leg issue. Hope it clears up quickly for you. Good to see Latton Street taking shape.

    Take care good sir.

    Toto
     

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