Lenz L1-USB on Windows 7. Help needed!

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  1. Keith M

    Keith M Staff Member Moderator

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    The PC does recognise my Logitech USB 'Trackball' mouse, and it 'sees' the LI-USB but that has the yellow mark on the icon. Further investigation (Or in my case, much blundering about and cursing!) reveals that "Windows cannot find the driver". I've tried the 'look on the internet for suitable drivers' option, no joy, also tried the 'look on the computer' option but again, despite having unzipped and installed the updated (V3.6) drivers, Windows can't find them. Shame there isn't a 'Try Specsavers' option!:headbanger:
    Trying another tack, last night I was fortunate enough (I hope!) to acquire a Lenz 23151 LAN/USB unit on Ebay, complete with leads and CD for £100 (New these are £165) so I am hoping that this may be the answer rather than spending the rest of my days literally banging my head against a wall in trying to get the 23150 unit to work for me, as I have better things to do with my time (and models to build/complete!). Once that arrives, I may well be back with more daft questions, so "Watch this space!"
    In the meantime, many thanks for all your help and suggestions, you have no idea how much I appreciate them.:thumbup:

    Keith.
     
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    I have the 23151 and it works very well indeed. It has a different internal chip and the drivers for this one are actually part of Windows itself, so it should see it the moment you plug it in - at least that's what happened for me on Windows 10 and I believe 7 is the same. You also have the option of using a LAN connection if you have a spare LAN port on your PC which is the way I use it. This needs a LAN crossover cable.

    However what you will have to do is remove the LI-USB software that you've already installed and replace it with the version I referred to in my previous post as you'll need this version for support of the 23151.
     
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    Keith M Staff Member Moderator

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    Thanks for your assistance Robert. I assume that the version you referred to will be on the included CD with the 23151. To be honest, I have no idea what a LAN port looks like, but I'll research it and look to getting the crossover cable too. Thanks again.
    Keith.
     
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    The latest CV-Editor is not on the 23151 CD - just the old version that is dated 2008, so you do need to download the current version from the link in my earlier post.

    A crossover cable 1m in length will set you back no more than £2 and the easiest way to get one is from Ebay where there are plenty of sellers. You do however need a spare LAN network port on your PC to use this LAN interface.
     
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    Keith M Staff Member Moderator

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    I had a visit yesterday evening from the 'friend of a friend' who has a degree in computers. 20 minutes and it's all up and running!!! He pointed out that since I don't intend (at least for the present) to be wanting to control the layout from my iPhone, I didn't need to bother with the ethernet setup, though I have already fitted a PCI LAN card to the PC and have the crossover cable but for the moment I'll stick to keeping it simple. Now I have to decide "do I invest in DCC point control or stick to switched analogue control?"
    Decisions, decisions!
    Keith.
     
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    Hi Keith
    I'd think that decision comes back to are you thinking about automation ? ie computer controlled running of trains at all ? If so, then for route switching - yep DCC.
    On the subject of software, you mentioned JMRI. A good place to start. Between Decoder Pro (manages/maintains all the CV's on all your decoders) and Layout/Panel Pro (Layout control) you need no other software. The Lenz utilities are umm, somewhat dated, basic and not so user friendly. Decoder Pro is very very good at it's task.
    I have the same setup as you basically LZV100 (15yrs old but upgraded to v3.6) + newish Li-USB/LAN 23151. What block occupancy are you using/planning? I went further down the Lenz route there, Lenz LB100/101 and feedback. My point motors are all Peco analogue controlled by DCC Concepts SX8 decoders (bang for buck basically- (well without soldering anyway)).
     
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    Hi Splitpin.
    My Lenz setup is V3.6 also, the CD which came with the LI-USB is a 2015 edition so fairly up to date software-wise. I've no block occupancy in place or in fact even thought about, but already have JMRI Panel/Layout/Decoder Pro on the PC, point motors are mostly Seep PM1's with the auxiliary switch which I have utilised to control colour light signalling, a few Hornby ones where I can't fit Seep's (due to under-layout support struts in the way), but these have changeover relays wired so as to switch signals also. I've never run my layout to a timetable (I'm not that organised!), don't really plan to anyway, and can't foresee automated computer operation as part of the plan. As I have 43 points on the layout, I'd need about 8 of the Lenz switching decoders which aren't cheap, so it would be a slow changeover exercise if I went down that route. Soldering isn't a problem, as I've been soldering firstly as an electronics 'dabbler' as a kid, and later as a professional Electrician for 60 years now, and have progressed to brass/white metal loco kitbuilding over the last couple of years which has meant that, to my shame, I have only rarely run any trains at all for about the last 18 months since I find kitbuilding very absorbing and interesting, though I'm not even approaching the standard of Rob Pulham on this forum.
    My main problem has been that as I have little knowledge of Windows PC's (I use an iMac anyway) and have had no formal training on any computers, having been inducted at the "Bumble Through" school of computer studies, I've had difficulty in working through what is supposedly a 'Plug-and-play' format when the LI-USB didn't 'Plug-and-play' as it should have. Fortunately, all seems to be operational now.......maybe I should leave things as they are!:giggle:

    Keith.
     
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