Mossy work bench

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  1. Mossy

    Mossy Full Member

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    NER V2 and V3 Brake Vans

    Ordered from a now retired supplier, I wanted the V2 but had to order both the V2 and V3 as he only sells full etches and these two were paired together. What you get for £100 is the etches plus white metal castings for the buffer housings, end stanchions and axle box/springs, oh and a set of buffer rams, springs et al.

    The buffers were replaced by very nice ones from Haywood’s, the end stanchions clean up reasonably, while the axle box/spring castings are poor, but I couldn’t find an alternate source, so I have to make the best of them.

    Historical

    The V2 is a very obscure van, of which there is only one clear photo, although written documentation of the vans is much more extensive. Most of the kit is conjecture and based on a drawing by Richard Lacey in an old NER Record.

    The V3 is a 20-ton 6-wheel brake designed for goods use but appears to have been mainly used with heavy coal and iron ore trains. Again, this kit is based on a drawing by Richard Lacey.

    Ian Sadler’s book on the NER brake vans has numerous photos and drawings of all the NER vans and is proving invaluable.

    The V2 so far

    The V2, some readers may have seen as I posted a couple of pics on the new members page
    was pretty much done, just the footboards and dressing up to do. Since then I have stripped out everything below the solebar and cleaned them up ready for refitting. Why? The W irons need to be positioned by eye and small tabs and I got it wrong, (there are no helpful tabs and slots on either of these kits) which meant the footboards wouldn’t fit because of the axle boxes.

    It is sitting about 4 feet from me waiting a through clean and reassembly.


    V2 looked like this.JPG V2 - now like this.JPG

    The V3

    Over the weekend I should have continue with the NER horsebox I am building, but decided to start on this instead, bring it up to the same point as the V2 and to finish them off side by side.

    So, like most vans it’s a basic box, with a fold down chassis. The van ends fit inside the van sides, as do the cab sides, not dissimilar to many other van kits, all straight forward.

    The roof and clerestory roof need to be bent so a quick application with the wife’s rolling pin sorted them out, please don’t tell her she was out at the time.

    Fitting the topcote to the main roof looked difficult, but proved to be reasonably straight forward, provided you don’t mind slightly singed fingers. The tiny handrails at each corner were formed around the shank of a 1.5mm drill bit and fitted very neatly. Varnished tissue paper is used to give some texture to what is supposed to be a canvas over wood roof.

    V3 basic box.JPG

    V3 roof 1.JPG V3 roof 2.JPG

    Sorted out a minor job. The van ends have fold down strips top and bottom of the openings which are meant to give the impression of the thickness of the van ends, but on the V2 there is no in-fill, while the V3 has an infill for below the opening, but not elsewhere. A few pieces of trimmed plasticard have been glue in place to fill in the rest. The V3 has sandboxes on each veranda, these have been assembled and fitted. Next job V3 W irons.


    V2 plasticard inserts.JPG V3 plasticard inserts.JPG
     
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    V3 W Irons

    Ok so dead easy, standard W irons, fold down and solder the base, push out some rivets, fold in the keeper plates, fit job done.

    Oh if life were so easy.

    As a positioning aid there are 4 tabs hanging from the sole bar (theses can be seen in an earlier photo).

    Fold them over, or leave them where they are and cut them off later, I folded then down. The problem is they aren’t accurate, see photo, so the only way to align the irons properly is by eye against the etched rivets on the sole bar.

    This van hasn’t got a floor, so what about getting the right depth? Plasticard to the rescue, stipes were temporarily super glued on top of the solebars, so at least all 6 irons would have the same depth.

    Final problem (or was it) the keeper plates were all etched in the same sense, so when folded over, two faced out from the chassis the other 2 into that chassis, folded out they interfere with the axle box casting, folded in they interfere with the top hat bearing – solution cut them off, wrong but after all its my toy isn’t it!
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    Job done, but, look at the axle box casting photo. For a hobby meant to relax this is getting frustrating, time for some red wine!

    V3 next problem.JPG
     
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    D&S Kit Instructions


    Hi, has anyone got copies of the following that they could scan and email to me:

    The revised roof instructions for DS177-7 Dia 196 NER Horsebox.
    The revised bogie instructions for DS226-7 Dia 116 NER 52' Clerestory Auto Coach (I suspect these will be the same for any of the 52' bogie stocks).

    Danny failed to provide them when the kits were purchased last year and he hasn't (uncharacteristically ) responded to a couple of follow up letters.

    Many thanks

    Mossy
     
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    Toto I'm best ignored Staff Member Founder Administrator

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    I've seen something on these before :scratchchin: I'll see if I can find it and come back to you. :scratchchin: very familiar. Especially the horse box.

    Toto
     
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    Cheers Toto
     
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    jakesdad13 Staff Member Moderator

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    Hi Mossy, I had heard he was having personal family problems. I've just had a look on the LNER forum as someone was experiencing similar problems to you. One of the replies to his post was from someone who knows Danny and lives close by, (bearing in mind this was Oct' 2020) he suggested phoning him if he hadn't responded to a letter.

    Pete.
     
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    Hi Pete,

    Thanks for the update, if Danny has personnel problems then chasing him around about some trivial instructions is just something he doesn't need at this time, everyone is suffering in some way or other, I am more than happy to wait till things has been resolved (hopefully). In the mean time if anyone has the instructions in 4mm or 7mm, please get in touch.

    Mossy
     

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