NER Perishables Van, back dated from a Connoisseur kit for the LNER version

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  1. Rob Pulham

    Rob Pulham Happily making models Staff Member Administrator Feature Contributor

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    Despite building it at the same time I completely forgot to post this, following on from the Road van my second victim is a conversion of a Connoisseur LNER Perishables van from one of these – photo courtesy of Jim McGeown’s website

    http://www.jimmcgeown.com/Wagon Kit Pages/Wagon images/LNER Perishable Van Photo.jpg

    To a North Eastern Railway version with cupboard type doors instead of the sliding door on the LNER version. The cupboard doors and their locking mechanism will need to be scratch built. LNER Wagons Volume Two by Peter Tatlow has photos and a drawing which will prove very helpful during this conversion.

    We start off by cutting out the parts etched in the door openings
    Van side etches as they come.jpg

    Once they are removed and put to one side for later in the build, the openings need to be trimmed back to the door pillars. I did this with the trusty piercing saw with a no 6 blade.

    Once I had my door opening dimensions, I cut a couple of replacement doors and scored the planking on them using an Olfa Cutter (skrawker).


    Connoisseur Perishables Van - backdated to NER 1.JPG
    Connoisseur Perishables Van - backdated to NER.jpg


    These were soldered in with some strips of scrap etch soldered all the way around to prevent them being dislodged through handling of the finished van.



    Once this was done, I started on the hinges. This job was made some much easier by riveting the edge of a piece of 10 thou brass sheet at the appropriate spacing (taken from the drawing) using my GP models rivet press and then cutting the strip from the sheet using my guillotine. I ended up filing a few down to width before I got my eye in despite scribing a cut line…



    Connoisseur Perishables Van -upper hinge straps fitted.jpg
     
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    From there it was just a case of keep adding the details to the doors
    Connoisseur Perishables Van -More hinge details.jpg


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    The ‘barrel’ of the hinges was made by filing a slot in a piece of 2mm x1mm bar using an oval file to give the slope where it meets the strap and then rounding off the other end. The RSU came into its own when soldering them on. I think it’s the first time that I have ever managed to solder on some fine detail without at least one part pinging off and requiring a search to find it or to make a replacement.

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    It's good to know you have the same problems as us mere mortals mate :giggle:

    Cheers, Pete.
     
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    Next up came the complex but visually attractive NER door locking mechanism.
    Made from scrap etch and brass rod. Although I didn't take any photos the mechanism does work.

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    Connoisseur Perishables Van - Scratch built door fittings.jpg



    Then I made up the basic body and detailed the ends. I was a bit clumsy and managed to melt one of the end post castings so I nicked one out of one of my kits and I will either get a spare from Jim when life returns to normal or make one from brass bar when I get to building it.

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    Connoisseur Perishables Van - Body Details.jpg

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    Very nice work Rob. If I could be as neat with glue as you are with solder, I'd be a very happy chap indeed!
     
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    Mossy A classic grump Yorkshire man Full Member

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    How back dated are you going Rob, almost all the photos in Tatlow show the F4 with what look to me like type 2A axleboxes.
    That's the one I wanted for the B1 build, but I couldn't find a supplier of 2A'a so opted for the No 1 instead.
     
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    Having had the discussion, the chap that I built it for elected to stick with the LNER axleboxes supplied by Jim. His view was that if they bug him enough he will change them later.
     
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    Well the customer is always right, if he changes his mind. Big Jims V1 has Ellis boxes, and his V4 has 2A's, but of course both have Brake Van springs which would need sorting.
     
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    Once the doors were finished the rest of it went together pretty much as Jim intended. With the addition of LG vacuum, steam heat and couplings.


    Connoisseur Perishables Van - final Details 1.jpg

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    Connoisseur Perishables Van - Ready for Paint 1.jpg


    I added a floor from the mount board that the kit comes attached to and I made the roof removable so that the back of the louvres could be blanked off should it be required.
     
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    Finally, here it is with a coat of paint which is as far as I took it.


    Connoisseur NER Perishables Van 3.jpg


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    Superb Rob!
     
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    Last but not least here is a photo of the perishables van lettered in NER livery This photo is not mine but I have permission to share it.


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    Rob,
    I agree with Jakesdad it looks superb, but those axleboxes just keep glaring at me. What's next - that C1 with the solebars folded the wrong way? :facepalm:
    I am just finishing off the second B1 and have ordered another etch from Steve Hoyle, the C2 High Goods with C5 and C6 Sleeper wagons, but it will be 4-6 weeks before they arrive.
     
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    Hi Mossy,

    Ours is not to reason why as they say.
    I have just poured the mould for the no2 axlebox/spring castings, so fingers crossed I will be sharing the results of casting in the next couple of days.
     
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    Hi Rob,

    I hope you have some pics of the casting process, even if I never use it I would love to know how its done, just for knowledge sake.

    Mossy
     
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    Hi Mate,
    You may be giving me too much credit, this will only be the second mould that I have done and the first one and it's subsequent casts were done under the supervision of a friend and fellow P1 member from Oz (@Kerry Viney). With my house move intervening I never got around to doing any further casting on my own so this will be a first.

    I didn't take photos of the mould creation process but I have just taken some and the mould silicone is translucent so you can see the masters through it and get the idea of how it was done. I will create a separate thread on it though. so that people can find it again should they need to.
     
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    Rob,

    Second time is twice more than I have, and frankly I wouldn't have a clue how to start so a separate thread would be great.

    Mossy
     

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